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		<title>By: facebook-33304764</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/09/29/unholy-trinity/#comment-27840</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because single payer gets ride of the insurance, subsidy and tax penalty bullshit. All that deadweight loss is an incredible waste. Single payer would take from the rich and give to the poor without all those stupid mechanisms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because single payer gets ride of the insurance, subsidy and tax penalty bullshit. All that deadweight loss is an incredible waste. Single payer would take from the rich and give to the poor without all those stupid mechanisms.</p>
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		<title>By: facebook-33304764</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because single payer gets ride of the insurance, subsidy and tax penalty bullshit. All that deadweight loss is an incredible waste. Single payer would take from the rich and give to the poor without all those stupid mechanisms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because single payer gets ride of the insurance, subsidy and tax penalty bullshit. All that deadweight loss is an incredible waste. Single payer would take from the rich and give to the poor without all those stupid mechanisms.</p>
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		<title>By: angelia110</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/09/29/unholy-trinity/#comment-27838</link>
		<dc:creator>angelia110</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;h2 align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;Costs For Uggs--What It Costs?&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;--&gt;Are you lusting after a few (or even more) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.goodugg.co.uk/ugg-classic-cardy-c-161.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ugg boots&lt;/a&gt;   and if so, you&#039;re in good company, as girls and women of all ages, especially with the simple, slipper-like design of these sheepskin &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.goodugg.co.uk/grey-ugg-boots-5819-classic-cardy-p-23458.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ugg boots sale &lt;/a&gt;, which are relatively easy and very comfortable to wear. And they appear to be affected. Some men are also jumping on the trend and luxury UGGs? Australia, the brand also offers a range of contemporary styles for them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;--&gt;Could you mind giving everyone loves from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.goodugg.co.uk/ugg-classic-tall-c-162.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ugg classic &lt;/a&gt;? There are so many types of uggs, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.goodugg.co.uk/ugg-bailey-button-c-178.html?zenid=847c0f495b87cb43928dcc19d09f4019&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ugg bailey button&lt;/a&gt;,ugg &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.goodugg.co.uk/ugg-classic-tall-c-162.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;classic tall&lt;/a&gt;, ugg &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.goodugg.co.uk/ugg-classic-short-c-160.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;classic short&lt;/a&gt;, ugg &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.goodugg.co.uk/ugg-classic-cardy-c-161.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;classic cardy&lt;/a&gt;. How to choose your favorite? Or do you really want to one uggs regardless its style? Despite their design is  awkward and slipper-lile, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.goodugg.co.uk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Uggs&lt;/a&gt; is  one of the few stations that are of general interest, have argued that cross  generational lines.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;--&gt;Young people, students and young mothers  and the Middle Ages, the original Black &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.goodugg.co.uk/ugg-ultra-tall-c-167.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ultra  Tall UGG Boots&lt;/a&gt;, seem pulled the fleecy-lined boots that are manufactured in Australia, with the best materials.  Are you sure that your feet warm in winter without socks, and cool in summer so  that is more versatile too? If no, hurry up to take one &lt;strong&gt;ugg boots &lt;/strong&gt;on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.goodugg.co.uk/ugg-classic-tall-c-162.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;uggs on sale&lt;/a&gt; ! That&#039;s why we see people wear them in schools,  supermarkets, on the slopes and even in the most popular beaches in the United  States and abroad. Many surfers also use uggs to keep their feet warm.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;--&gt;What do you really care about? Is its price  or quality, or you just following the general trend? You know what are you  thinking in your heart!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;h2 align=&#8221;center&#8221;&gt;Costs For Uggs&#8211;What It Costs?&lt;/h2&gt;
<p>&#8211;&gt;Are you lusting after a few (or even more) <a href="http://www.goodugg.co.uk/ugg-classic-cardy-c-161.html" rel="nofollow">Ugg boots</a>   and if so, you&#39;re in good company, as girls and women of all ages, especially with the simple, slipper-like design of these sheepskin <a href="http://www.goodugg.co.uk/grey-ugg-boots-5819-classic-cardy-p-23458.html" rel="nofollow">ugg boots sale </a>, which are relatively easy and very comfortable to wear. And they appear to be affected. Some men are also jumping on the trend and luxury UGGs? Australia, the brand also offers a range of contemporary styles for them.</p>
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<p>&#8211;&gt;Could you mind giving everyone loves from <a href="http://www.goodugg.co.uk/ugg-classic-tall-c-162.html" rel="nofollow">ugg classic </a>? There are so many types of uggs, <a href="http://www.goodugg.co.uk/ugg-bailey-button-c-178.html?zenid=847c0f495b87cb43928dcc19d09f4019" rel="nofollow">ugg bailey button</a>,ugg <a href="http://www.goodugg.co.uk/ugg-classic-tall-c-162.html" rel="nofollow">classic tall</a>, ugg <a href="http://www.goodugg.co.uk/ugg-classic-short-c-160.html" rel="nofollow">classic short</a>, ugg <a href="http://www.goodugg.co.uk/ugg-classic-cardy-c-161.html" rel="nofollow">classic cardy</a>. How to choose your favorite? Or do you really want to one uggs regardless its style? Despite their design is  awkward and slipper-lile, <a href="http://www.goodugg.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">Uggs</a> is  one of the few stations that are of general interest, have argued that cross  generational lines.</p>
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<p>&#8211;&gt;Young people, students and young mothers  and the Middle Ages, the original Black <a href="http://www.goodugg.co.uk/ugg-ultra-tall-c-167.html" rel="nofollow">Ultra  Tall UGG Boots</a>, seem pulled the fleecy-lined boots that are manufactured in Australia, with the best materials.  Are you sure that your feet warm in winter without socks, and cool in summer so  that is more versatile too? If no, hurry up to take one <strong>ugg boots </strong>on <a href="http://www.goodugg.co.uk/ugg-classic-tall-c-162.html" rel="nofollow">uggs on sale</a> ! That&#39;s why we see people wear them in schools,  supermarkets, on the slopes and even in the most popular beaches in the United  States and abroad. Many surfers also use uggs to keep their feet warm.</p>
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<p>&#8211;&gt;What do you really care about? Is its price  or quality, or you just following the general trend? You know what are you  thinking in your heart!</p>
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		<title>By: uknowbetter</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/09/29/unholy-trinity/#comment-27836</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Everyone dies.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2. You are welcome to donate your money to whomever you choose.  However, you are not welcome to stick a gun at my head and demand my money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Everyone dies.</p>
<p>2. You are welcome to donate your money to whomever you choose.  However, you are not welcome to stick a gun at my head and demand my money.</p>
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		<title>By: uknowbetter</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/09/29/unholy-trinity/#comment-27837</link>
		<dc:creator>uknowbetter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I&#039;m from the government and I&#039;m here to screw things up.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#39;m from the government and I&#39;m here to screw things up.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DWAnderson</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/09/29/unholy-trinity/#comment-27835</link>
		<dc:creator>DWAnderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the main reason my scenario is flawed has to do with the magnitude of soem of the effects I have posited, e.g. (as simon alludes to) if fines are high enough (although it is hard to see how they could exceed the cost of coverage and be politically paletable) people will just get even really expensive insurance that would now seem like a bad deal.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What is interesting to me about my scenario is that the practical effects of a given &quot;reform&quot; plan have more to do with things like the magnitude of fines and other smaller features than the features of the system that much of the debate focusses on. But perhaps that is inevitable with 1000+ page bills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the main reason my scenario is flawed has to do with the magnitude of soem of the effects I have posited, e.g. (as simon alludes to) if fines are high enough (although it is hard to see how they could exceed the cost of coverage and be politically paletable) people will just get even really expensive insurance that would now seem like a bad deal.</p>
<p>What is interesting to me about my scenario is that the practical effects of a given &#8220;reform&#8221; plan have more to do with things like the magnitude of fines and other smaller features than the features of the system that much of the debate focusses on. But perhaps that is inevitable with 1000+ page bills.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/09/29/unholy-trinity/#comment-27834</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, so, young healthy people might have to pay some of the costs of old sick people.  How incisive.  I can only hope Mr. Grier will next shock us by pointing out that high earners &lt;i&gt;pay more income taxes&lt;/i&gt; than low earners.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wonder if it has occurred to the people who continually make this argument (that young healthy people will be overcharged) that old sick people, for the most part, used to be young healthy people.  One might think that the fact that the proposed reforms would all help young healthy people actually keep their coverage once they become sick would bear mentioning.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m further baffled as to how this would be worse than single payer - don&#039;t healthy people subsidize sick people in a single payer system as well??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, so, young healthy people might have to pay some of the costs of old sick people.  How incisive.  I can only hope Mr. Grier will next shock us by pointing out that high earners <i>pay more income taxes</i> than low earners.</p>
<p>I wonder if it has occurred to the people who continually make this argument (that young healthy people will be overcharged) that old sick people, for the most part, used to be young healthy people.  One might think that the fact that the proposed reforms would all help young healthy people actually keep their coverage once they become sick would bear mentioning.</p>
<p>I&#39;m further baffled as to how this would be worse than single payer &#8211; don&#39;t healthy people subsidize sick people in a single payer system as well??</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/09/29/unholy-trinity/#comment-27833</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy Point&lt;br&gt;If it were a matter of asking people to pay higher premiums to support others, you&#039;d have a private-sector non-profit insurance company with a sliding scale of premiums. Not aware of any in plat at the moment.&lt;br&gt;The government isn&#039;t going to ask -- it&#039;s going to compel. Or rather, the Dem leadership intends to do so. I am hopeful that we can block it.&lt;br&gt;It is manifestly unjust to demand that anyone else subsidize you. Your second point -- none of us are young and healthy forever -- is why you take out insurance while you are young.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy Point<br />If it were a matter of asking people to pay higher premiums to support others, you&#39;d have a private-sector non-profit insurance company with a sliding scale of premiums. Not aware of any in plat at the moment.<br />The government isn&#39;t going to ask &#8212; it&#39;s going to compel. Or rather, the Dem leadership intends to do so. I am hopeful that we can block it.<br />It is manifestly unjust to demand that anyone else subsidize you. Your second point &#8212; none of us are young and healthy forever &#8212; is why you take out insurance while you are young.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie's Farm</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/09/29/unholy-trinity/#comment-27832</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie's Farm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Updates on the attempted medical care take-over by the Federal government...&lt;/strong&gt;

Why the O bombed on health care. WSJ. No, the public isn&#039;t stupid.
NY Post - Reform horrors: The O&#039;s total disconnect
Via Wilkinson:

I actually think we are going to get a reform that is both worse than the status quo and worse than a pure sing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Updates on the attempted medical care take-over by the Federal government&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Why the O bombed on health care. WSJ. No, the public isn&#8217;t stupid.<br />
NY Post &#8211; Reform horrors: The O&#8217;s total disconnect<br />
Via Wilkinson:</p>
<p>I actually think we are going to get a reform that is both worse than the status quo and worse than a pure sing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mk</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/09/29/unholy-trinity/#comment-27831</link>
		<dc:creator>mk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two reasons why this won&#039;t happen:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1) Cost control is the second step of this two-step reform of health care. Cost control won&#039;t happen for another 3-4 years, probably. (Sure there are some baby steps in this iteration of reform, but only baby steps). The system has to be about to break. Then, citizens will say &quot;don&#039;t take my health care away!&quot;, politicians will say &quot;we must fix this system&quot; etc.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2) Liberals believe that subsidized preventative care is crucial to improving health outcomes. That is in tension with the notion that citizens should be exposed to non-catastrophic health costs. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The tension is not irresolvable. In particular, if &quot;excessive&quot; non-catastrophic care can be left up to the wallets of citizens, but things like physicals and other useful preventative care can be subsidized, liberals will probably be happy. But that is not your scenario, it is just a scenario describing a particular kind of permanent insurance coverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two reasons why this won&#39;t happen:</p>
<p>1) Cost control is the second step of this two-step reform of health care. Cost control won&#39;t happen for another 3-4 years, probably. (Sure there are some baby steps in this iteration of reform, but only baby steps). The system has to be about to break. Then, citizens will say &#8220;don&#39;t take my health care away!&#8221;, politicians will say &#8220;we must fix this system&#8221; etc.  </p>
<p>2) Liberals believe that subsidized preventative care is crucial to improving health outcomes. That is in tension with the notion that citizens should be exposed to non-catastrophic health costs. </p>
<p>The tension is not irresolvable. In particular, if &#8220;excessive&#8221; non-catastrophic care can be left up to the wallets of citizens, but things like physicals and other useful preventative care can be subsidized, liberals will probably be happy. But that is not your scenario, it is just a scenario describing a particular kind of permanent insurance coverage.</p>
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