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By: Demagoguery

Demagoguery — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:59:33 +0000

[...] What We Are Not Embarrassed by (willwilkinson.net) – August 27, 2009Here is a good debate proposition: It ought to be less embarrassing to have been influenced by Ayn Rand than by Karl Marx. The most powerful way to argue the affirmative is to compare the number of hu… [...]

By: Ed Driscoll » Obama And Teddy Kennedy: Mid-Century Men

Ed Driscoll » Obama And Teddy Kennedy: Mid-Century Men — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 21:21:46 +0000

[...] Wilkinson asks a very useful question: Here is a good debate proposition: It ought to be less embarrassing to have been influenced by Ayn [...]

By: StanR

StanR — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 19:28:47 +0000

At the top of the list of things Will should be embarrassed by is this post, and the (lack of) reasoning therein. Those agreeing with this post should also be embarrassed, because they are willing to agree with hack reasoning clothed in a message they like to hear: "Marx is crap!"

Confirmation bias is just that easy and natural for all of us.

Points to William, Gavin Sullivan, Michael Drake, dfstearns, Groucho Engels, and fatsteve for calling out this blunder.

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By: neverbeenfree

neverbeenfree — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 03:46:15 +0000

These are your (and Obama's) overlords: Rahm and Ezekial Emanuel, Summer, Rubin, Bernanke, Paulson, Greenspan, et al. Dual-citizen Israelis are 85% responsible for all the so-called terrorist attacks. Chertoff created the police state. Dov Zakheim masterminded 9/11. You can debate right/left paradigms while the Zionists have stolen all your money, homes, gold, and lives. Who is ultimately behind the murders of 44 microbiologists and the resurrection of the 1918 pandemic?

By: neverbeenfree

neverbeenfree — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 03:23:24 +0000

Not one of you has even the slightest understanding of who funded Marx (Rothschild) and who were to be the sole (unmentioned) beneficiaries of state slavery (Zionists). The real issue is and has always been the central bankers, whether Marxist or capitalist. Not one of you seems to realize that these are just forms of tyranny the Zionists employ. Everyone is a slave. The few countries without central banks or Zionist masters are not much better, but they have to fight the economic hit men and/or the U.S. military non-stop. The real shocker is that none of you know of our long struggle against the central bankers. The Bolsheviks were funded by Wall Street bankers, such as Schiff–that means the U.S. taxpayers. Armand Hammer and others had private airports in the U.S.S.R. Marx/Rand are for idiots. Study Rothschild and Rockefeller.

By: fatsteve

fatsteve — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 03:13:21 +0000

"Here is a good debate proposition: It ought to be less embarrassing to have been influenced by Ayn Rand than by Karl Marx.

The most powerful way to argue the affirmative is to compare the number of human beings murdered by the devotees of each."

Here is a good debate proposition: It ought to be less embarrassing to have been influenced by Ashlee Simpson than Ayn Rand

The most powerful way to argue the affirmative is to compare the number of human beings murdered by the devotees of each.

Clearly Ashlee Simpson comes out on the top in this debate

Here is a good debate proposition: It ought to be less embarrassing to have been influenced by Michael Vick than Ayn Rand

The most powerful way to argue the affirmative is to compare the number of human beings murdered by the devotees of each.

Michael Vick wins this one.

Wait a second...this is a really stupid debate...

By: Guest

Guest — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:22:43 +0000

Ayn Rand's philosophy can be usefully summed up as: individual liberty is the only thing that matters.

No, Ayn Rand's philosophy can be usefully summed up as: I got mine, F**k you.

By: Bruce

Bruce — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:41:45 +0000

..and philosophers remain a standing joke to the rest of us.

“… but adults realize that Rand wrote crude fantasies that are simply not applicable to real life.”

“Adults” and “I” are not interchangeable, sad sack.

By: geneberman

geneberman — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:57:03 +0000

QQQ:

“Lack of health insurance” as “cause of death?” C'mon, man wha'd'areye, nuts hangin' out the window?

By: geneberman

geneberman — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:24:02 +0000

thehova:

You're absolutely right about that and I think we can safely say that Marx was, in certain respects, not sane; further, I think we can draw the same conclusion regarding his supporters.

And it might interest you to know that I am so persuaded because I realize that it is myself (and not Marx or his supporters) who understands exactly how the world works (and that everyone else is mistaken). And, until now, I was “one up” on Marx in that, at least I didn't let everyone in on just how smart I am–nor will I in the future
(I'll just deny it, despite this piece of damning evidence. It works!–at least sometimes.)

By: Groucho Engels

Groucho Engels — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:15:54 +0000

Will, are you just troll baiting here? I mean Marx was amazingly influential in politics, cultural analysis, and philosophy. Whether or not he was right or wrong. I mean Plato was wrong about almost everything but he was hugely more influential than Heraclitus (though that's not a good comparison for Rand, maybe one of the lesser known roman rhetoricians instead?).

Rand has not been very influential in the realm of politics, philosophy, or cultural analysis. You don't see Libertarian internationals. There hasn't been any dictator who tried to use Rand as ideological cover (Marxism was nowhere as deadly as Leninism, Stalinism, and Maoism by the way).

Marx wasn't completely wrong and he certainly was revolutionary (as in shockingly original) in his thinking. He's the intellectual godfather of modern socialism. Ayn Rand was just a derivative Nietzschean Lockean not widely known outside of certain political circles.