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	<title>Comments on: The Illiberal Liberalism of Charter Cities</title>
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		<title>By: charter cities ctd. &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/08/10/the-illiberal-liberalism-of-charter-cities/#comment-26442</link>
		<dc:creator>charter cities ctd. &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 20:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] then leads back to the discussion Arnold Kling and Will Wilkinson were having a while back about autonomous city-states, or charter cities, which would be allowed to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: huang</title>
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		<dc:creator>huang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 04:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Guatemala fact of the day &#171; See the Invisible Hand</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/08/10/the-illiberal-liberalism-of-charter-cities/#comment-26440</link>
		<dc:creator>Guatemala fact of the day &#171; See the Invisible Hand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the idea will be applied, say, to either Kaliningrad or the Kurdish part of Iraq.  Here are comments from Will Wilkinson. The U.S. Senate, by the way, did not ratify the Knox-Castrillo treaty.  VN:F [1.5.8_856]RATE THIS [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the idea will be applied, say, to either Kaliningrad or the Kurdish part of Iraq.  Here are comments from Will Wilkinson. The U.S. Senate, by the way, did not ratify the Knox-Castrillo treaty.  VN:F [1.5.8_856]RATE THIS [...]</p>
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		<title>By: If You Build It, They Will Change Their Undemocratic, Illiberal Ways &#171; Around The Sphere</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/08/10/the-illiberal-liberalism-of-charter-cities/#comment-26439</link>
		<dc:creator>If You Build It, They Will Change Their Undemocratic, Illiberal Ways &#171; Around The Sphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Will Wilkinson: Hong Kong and it’s effect on China is Romer’s big example. Alex Tabarrok says that Hong Kong’s reintegration into China really marked China’s integration into Hong Kong. I think this is too hopeful. China remains authoritarian, illiberal, undemocratic and not at all enamored of the distinctively English spirit of laissez faire behind the Hong Kong experiment. I think it’s interesting that these facts are clearly assets to the Charter Cities project. What the example of Hong Kong communicates is that authoritarian, illiberal, undemocratic regimes need not feel threatened by semi-independent city states with working “liberal” market institutions. It says to rulers that their countries can get rich without granting their subjects real freedom. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Will Wilkinson: Hong Kong and it’s effect on China is Romer’s big example. Alex Tabarrok says that Hong Kong’s reintegration into China really marked China’s integration into Hong Kong. I think this is too hopeful. China remains authoritarian, illiberal, undemocratic and not at all enamored of the distinctively English spirit of laissez faire behind the Hong Kong experiment. I think it’s interesting that these facts are clearly assets to the Charter Cities project. What the example of Hong Kong communicates is that authoritarian, illiberal, undemocratic regimes need not feel threatened by semi-independent city states with working “liberal” market institutions. It says to rulers that their countries can get rich without granting their subjects real freedom. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Designing Ideas for Democracy: Conceptualizing Charter Cities &#124; brianfrank.ca</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/08/10/the-illiberal-liberalism-of-charter-cities/#comment-26438</link>
		<dc:creator>Designing Ideas for Democracy: Conceptualizing Charter Cities &#124; brianfrank.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Will Wilkinson turned it into an issue of freedom and democracy rather than economic development, poverty reduction, and quality-of-life improvement: What the example of Hong Kong communicates is that authoritarian, illiberal, undemocratic regimes need not feel threatened by semi-independent city states with working “liberal” market institutions. It says to rulers that their countries can get rich without granting their subjects real freedom. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Will Wilkinson turned it into an issue of freedom and democracy rather than economic development, poverty reduction, and quality-of-life improvement: What the example of Hong Kong communicates is that authoritarian, illiberal, undemocratic regimes need not feel threatened by semi-independent city states with working “liberal” market institutions. It says to rulers that their countries can get rich without granting their subjects real freedom. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: uknowbetter</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/08/10/the-illiberal-liberalism-of-charter-cities/#comment-26437</link>
		<dc:creator>uknowbetter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As people get a better standard of living, they get more powerful politically.  You can&#039;t become active politically when you spend all day worried about putting enough food on the table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As people get a better standard of living, they get more powerful politically.  You can&#39;t become active politically when you spend all day worried about putting enough food on the table.</p>
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		<title>By: Exit, Voice, and Liberty &#171; Brad Taylor&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/08/10/the-illiberal-liberalism-of-charter-cities/#comment-26436</link>
		<dc:creator>Exit, Voice, and Liberty &#171; Brad Taylor&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 07:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] debate in the libertarian blogosphere about the importance of democracy to freedom. Will Wilkinson suggests that since charter cities (and presumably seasteads) are undemocratic, they might allow rulers of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] debate in the libertarian blogosphere about the importance of democracy to freedom. Will Wilkinson suggests that since charter cities (and presumably seasteads) are undemocratic, they might allow rulers of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: More Democraphilia from Wilkinson &#171; Let A Thousand Nations Bloom</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/08/10/the-illiberal-liberalism-of-charter-cities/#comment-26435</link>
		<dc:creator>More Democraphilia from Wilkinson &#171; Let A Thousand Nations Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]   Looks like we&#8217;ve got ourselves a good old-fashioned libertarian throwdown! Wilkinson argued that democracy was key to &#8220;real freedom,&#8221; which charter cities cannot provide. Kling [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]   Looks like we&#8217;ve got ourselves a good old-fashioned libertarian throwdown! Wilkinson argued that democracy was key to &#8220;real freedom,&#8221; which charter cities cannot provide. Kling [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Yin Peterson</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/08/10/the-illiberal-liberalism-of-charter-cities/#comment-26434</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Yin Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The statements &quot;democracy is incidental to liberty&quot; and &quot;there is not a single possible alternative system of government which could bring about the level of freedom that democracy does, past present or future,&quot; aren&#039;t quite collectively exhaustive, you know?  Just because Will doesn&#039;t believe the former doesn&#039;t imply he believes the latter.  E.g., what if it&#039;s logically &lt;i&gt;possible&lt;/i&gt; to have a perfect world with absolute liberty and no gov&#039;t whatsoever, but that this possibility isn&#039;t bloody likely?  Maybe Will thinks democracy is neither necessary nor sufficient but it sure does help.  That seems eminently plausible</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The statements &#8220;democracy is incidental to liberty&#8221; and &#8220;there is not a single possible alternative system of government which could bring about the level of freedom that democracy does, past present or future,&#8221; aren&#39;t quite collectively exhaustive, you know?  Just because Will doesn&#39;t believe the former doesn&#39;t imply he believes the latter.  E.g., what if it&#39;s logically <i>possible</i> to have a perfect world with absolute liberty and no gov&#39;t whatsoever, but that this possibility isn&#39;t bloody likely?  Maybe Will thinks democracy is neither necessary nor sufficient but it sure does help.  That seems eminently plausible</p>
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		<title>By: Guatemala fact of the day &#171; See the Invisible Hand</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/08/10/the-illiberal-liberalism-of-charter-cities/#comment-26433</link>
		<dc:creator>Guatemala fact of the day &#171; See the Invisible Hand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 01:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the idea will be applied, say, to either Kaliningrad or the Kurdish part of Iraq.&#160; Here are comments from Will Wilkinson.The U.S. Senate, by the way, did not ratify the Knox-Castrillo treaty.  VN:F [1.5.8_856]RATE THIS [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the idea will be applied, say, to either Kaliningrad or the Kurdish part of Iraq.&#160; Here are comments from Will Wilkinson.The U.S. Senate, by the way, did not ratify the Knox-Castrillo treaty.  VN:F [1.5.8_856]RATE THIS [...]</p>
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