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By: the deception of dignity | The League of Ordinary Gentlemen

the deception of dignity | The League of Ordinary Gentlemen — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:54:51 +0000

[...] of fiscal conservatism. We face massive deficits, the possibility of a disastrous and expensive health care bill, terrible environmental regulatory efforts subject to capture and abuse, food regulations that will [...]

By: Alex J.

Alex J. — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:53:39 +0000

I understand. It's politically untenable though.

By: James K

James K — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 05:54:35 +0000

Singapore's system is irritatingly MIA in this debate. Their health system is cheaper than any in Europe, and with outcomes at least as good.

But its arguably more free-market than the status quo so the Democrats don't bring it up. And advocating it requires a measure of coherent thought so the Republicans don't bring it up.

By: Compromise To Remain On The Path To Health Care Reform - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought

Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:13:33 +0000

[...] Will Wilkinson comments on Ezra’s Klein’s response to Emanuel. I have commented further on [...]

By: huadpe

huadpe — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:13:00 +0000

This is quite theoretical indeed, and if we're going down the road of theory, let's push it all the way. John Broome is one of the more notable ethical philosophers who deal closely with healthcare, and is a consequentialist, which I gather from your reasoning above you are (or at least are sympathetic to) as well.

One of the problems Broome notes (in Weighing Lives) is the question of discounting over time. If you discount for the future, you seem to be valuing future lives less in a way Broome finds quite repugnant. That is, saying someone's life is worthless because of when they happen to live it. If you don't discount for the future though you end up in situations where present information is woefully inadequate to guide actions.

By: Health Care Reform and Ideology - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought

Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:12:24 +0000

[...] Will Wilkinson comments on Ezra’s Klein’s frustration with Rahm Emanuel’s being willing to compromise on specifics of health care legislation as long as the key goals are met (which I discussed earlier). Wilkinson wrote: Bush couldn’t reform Social Security because his plan was unpopular. Obama won’t be able to deliver a health-care bill ideological Democrats want, because what they want is unpopular and legislators know it. So Congressional Democrats want something they can cast as “victory” while doing nothing that could hurt their noble struggle for ongoing political self-preservation. Right now, strongly ideological media liberals like Klein have to decide whether they’re going to (a) act as enforcers, sending the signal to the powers-that-be that they will vocally and publicly count a “trigger” plan as a pathetic failure, or (b) sigh and prepare to declare whatever legislation passes a profound victory for ordinary Americans that shows just how great Democrats are. [...]

By: Joe

Joe — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:39:38 +0000

This is a feature, not a bug.