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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Wilkinson is rare non-hysterical voice on whether Mexican immigrants are altering our culture (on development-relevant [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TGGP</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/06/16/should-freedom-loving-americans-fear-the-mexican-voter/#comment-25630</link>
		<dc:creator>TGGP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is indeed little reason to lay off blaming previous immigrants to the U.S. My ancestors, for example, came from Ireland and while they were being ruled by the English at the time, the moment they achieved any rule for themselves they demonstrated their incompetence in self-governance (this has changed recently, but it took quite a while). To my mind it is not at all conclusive that native-born Americans and their descendants benefited from Irish immigration.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The people who are leaving seek better economic opportunities, but that doesn&#039;t indicate that they don&#039;t support the policies that led to reduced economic opportunities. In relatively democratic countries policies, perhaps even especially the worst policies, are broadly popular. Refuseniks/dissidents/refugees might be a different story, but that does not describe most of our immigrants. Even in that case, I think it was our misfortune to take in the &quot;Forty-Eighters&quot; from Germany in the 19th century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is indeed little reason to lay off blaming previous immigrants to the U.S. My ancestors, for example, came from Ireland and while they were being ruled by the English at the time, the moment they achieved any rule for themselves they demonstrated their incompetence in self-governance (this has changed recently, but it took quite a while). To my mind it is not at all conclusive that native-born Americans and their descendants benefited from Irish immigration.</p>
<p>The people who are leaving seek better economic opportunities, but that doesn&#39;t indicate that they don&#39;t support the policies that led to reduced economic opportunities. In relatively democratic countries policies, perhaps even especially the worst policies, are broadly popular. Refuseniks/dissidents/refugees might be a different story, but that does not describe most of our immigrants. Even in that case, I think it was our misfortune to take in the &#8220;Forty-Eighters&#8221; from Germany in the 19th century.</p>
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		<title>By: shecky</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/06/16/should-freedom-loving-americans-fear-the-mexican-voter/#comment-25629</link>
		<dc:creator>shecky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems silly to blame the the woes of the motherland on &lt;i&gt;people who are leaving&lt;/i&gt;. Why does this standard not apply to everyone who emigrated to the US in the past 200+ years? After all, how many folks came to the US because things were going so well in the Old Country? Can I blame you for the crappy state the US is in, since collective punishment seems widely accepted even among critics of redistribution-friendly furriners?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems silly to blame the the woes of the motherland on <i>people who are leaving</i>. Why does this standard not apply to everyone who emigrated to the US in the past 200+ years? After all, how many folks came to the US because things were going so well in the Old Country? Can I blame you for the crappy state the US is in, since collective punishment seems widely accepted even among critics of redistribution-friendly furriners?</p>
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		<title>By: TGGP</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/06/16/should-freedom-loving-americans-fear-the-mexican-voter/#comment-25628</link>
		<dc:creator>TGGP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 06:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Cuba was run pretty well before Castro took over. It had a positive rate of immigration even from Europe back then. Both Batista and Castro were dictators, so it makes less sense to credit Cubans with the performance of either. Perhaps we might fault them for having a society that only produced dictatorship. I am willing to blame Mexicans and &lt;a href=&quot;http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2007/07/how_the_rationa.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;many other poor countries&lt;/a&gt; for their bad public policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Cuba was run pretty well before Castro took over. It had a positive rate of immigration even from Europe back then. Both Batista and Castro were dictators, so it makes less sense to credit Cubans with the performance of either. Perhaps we might fault them for having a society that only produced dictatorship. I am willing to blame Mexicans and <a href="http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2007/07/how_the_rationa.html" rel="nofollow">many other poor countries</a> for their bad public policies.</p>
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		<title>By: TGGP</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/06/16/should-freedom-loving-americans-fear-the-mexican-voter/#comment-25626</link>
		<dc:creator>TGGP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is indeed little reason to lay off blaming previous immigrants to the U.S. My ancestors, for example, came from Ireland and while they were being ruled by the English at the time, the moment they achieved any rule for themselves they demonstrated their incompetence in self-governance (this has changed recently, but it took quite a while). To my mind it is not at all conclusive that native-born Americans and their descendants benefited from Irish immigration.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The people who are leaving seek better economic opportunities, but that doesn&#039;t indicate that they don&#039;t support the policies that led to reduced economic opportunities. In relatively democratic countries policies, perhaps even especially the worst policies, are broadly popular. Refuseniks/dissidents/refugees might be a different story, but that does not describe most of our immigrants. Even in that case, I think it was our misfortune to take in the &quot;Forty-Eighters&quot; from Germany in the 19th century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is indeed little reason to lay off blaming previous immigrants to the U.S. My ancestors, for example, came from Ireland and while they were being ruled by the English at the time, the moment they achieved any rule for themselves they demonstrated their incompetence in self-governance (this has changed recently, but it took quite a while). To my mind it is not at all conclusive that native-born Americans and their descendants benefited from Irish immigration.</p>
<p>The people who are leaving seek better economic opportunities, but that doesn&#39;t indicate that they don&#39;t support the policies that led to reduced economic opportunities. In relatively democratic countries policies, perhaps even especially the worst policies, are broadly popular. Refuseniks/dissidents/refugees might be a different story, but that does not describe most of our immigrants. Even in that case, I think it was our misfortune to take in the &#8220;Forty-Eighters&#8221; from Germany in the 19th century.</p>
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		<title>By: shecky</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/06/16/should-freedom-loving-americans-fear-the-mexican-voter/#comment-25625</link>
		<dc:creator>shecky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems silly to blame the the woes of the motherland on &lt;i&gt;people who are leaving&lt;/i&gt;. Why does this standard not apply to everyone who emigrated to the US in the past 200+ years? After all, how many folks came to the US because things were going so well in the Old Country? Can I blame you for the crappy state the US is in, since collective punishment seems widely accepted even among critics of redistribution-friendly furriners?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems silly to blame the the woes of the motherland on <i>people who are leaving</i>. Why does this standard not apply to everyone who emigrated to the US in the past 200+ years? After all, how many folks came to the US because things were going so well in the Old Country? Can I blame you for the crappy state the US is in, since collective punishment seems widely accepted even among critics of redistribution-friendly furriners?</p>
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		<title>By: TGGP</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/06/16/should-freedom-loving-americans-fear-the-mexican-voter/#comment-25624</link>
		<dc:creator>TGGP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Cuba was run pretty well before Castro took over. It had a positive rate of immigration even from Europe back then. Both Batista and Castro were dictators, so it makes less sense to credit Cubans with the performance of either. Perhaps we might fault them for having a society that only produced dictatorship. I am willing to blame Mexicans and &lt;a href=&quot;http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2007/07/how_the_rationa.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;many other poor countries&lt;/a&gt; for their bad public policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Cuba was run pretty well before Castro took over. It had a positive rate of immigration even from Europe back then. Both Batista and Castro were dictators, so it makes less sense to credit Cubans with the performance of either. Perhaps we might fault them for having a society that only produced dictatorship. I am willing to blame Mexicans and <a href="http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2007/07/how_the_rationa.html" rel="nofollow">many other poor countries</a> for their bad public policies.</p>
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		<title>By: shecky</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/06/16/should-freedom-loving-americans-fear-the-mexican-voter/#comment-25623</link>
		<dc:creator>shecky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mexicans probably do a better job than Cubans. Yet the average Cuban faces fewer immigration hurdles from the US government. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Then again, Mexican immigrants are not likely to have ever been involved in running Mexico. Does that count for or against their favor?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mexicans probably do a better job than Cubans. Yet the average Cuban faces fewer immigration hurdles from the US government. </p>
<p>Then again, Mexican immigrants are not likely to have ever been involved in running Mexico. Does that count for or against their favor?</p>
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		<title>By: uknowbetter</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/06/16/should-freedom-loving-americans-fear-the-mexican-voter/#comment-25622</link>
		<dc:creator>uknowbetter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s make this simpler.  How well have Mexicans done at running a country?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would say not very well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#39;s make this simpler.  How well have Mexicans done at running a country?</p>
<p>I would say not very well.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/06/16/should-freedom-loving-americans-fear-the-mexican-voter/#comment-25621</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>US, Regarding a) I was just pointing out that Denmark&#039;s economy is freer than the US&#039;s on most dimensions of economic freedom. I don&#039;t mean to minimize the importance of tax rates and size of government. And I don&#039;t think the indices minimize them (if anything, they&#039;re counting the same thing more than once.) That&#039;s why Denmark rightly ranks below the U.S. and Canada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US, Regarding a) I was just pointing out that Denmark&#39;s economy is freer than the US&#39;s on most dimensions of economic freedom. I don&#39;t mean to minimize the importance of tax rates and size of government. And I don&#39;t think the indices minimize them (if anything, they&#39;re counting the same thing more than once.) That&#39;s why Denmark rightly ranks below the U.S. and Canada.</p>
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