Comments on: Cato Unbound in Unlikely Places

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By: TGGP

TGGP — Mon, 04 May 2009 23:36:07 +0000

Please, mtraven, it's a hell of a lot more than half the population! We're much more discriminating than you give us credit for.

By: Susan

Susan — Mon, 04 May 2009 19:06:52 +0000

it IS hard to find female libertarians, and when history occasionally provides a great one, they're rarely identified as such (i.e Margaret Thatcher). I think the biggest problem in recruiting women to The Cause is lack of mainstream marketing of libertarian ideas. Too many people–not just women–dont even know what libertarian principles ARE. Currently free market ideas are confined to think tank websites and message boards filled with commentary by…engineers. Not exactly the best places to reach chicks. If there was money to do outreach to, say, women small business owners who are being strangled by the permit process/gov regulations, I suspect more women would sign on.

By: Mark

Mark — Sat, 02 May 2009 01:27:41 +0000

I think by “weird”, I meant “showing a failure of self-awareness” rather “rare or uncommon”.

And I _don't_ think one should expect proponents (effective ones, anyway) of new ideas to complain about this, because it is stupid and pointless to complain that people don't agree with you. If they don't agree with the ideas, it must be because the proponents _haven't convinced them yet_, and the burden is not by any means on them to recognize the alleged superiority of the proponents ideas…

By: John Thacker

John Thacker — Fri, 01 May 2009 11:55:17 +0000

Do you really think that women vote for wars less than men do? I'm not sure I understand people who are shocked and appalled at the suggestion that women seem to be less libertarian and demand reams of data about the assertion (reasonable to demand data, of course), yet blithely throw off the assumption that women must be less likely to vote for war.

Switzerland didn't give women the right to vote at the federal level until 1971, and some cantons not until 1990. Liechtenstein not until 1984. And yet these non- women's vote having countries were the least warlike in Europe.

Meanwhile Germany (1918), the UK, the US, Austria, Canada, etc. were a host of countries that gave women the vote between WWI and WWII. That didn't seem to stop WWII.

Has women's suffrage led to some decrease in the size of military spending? Not apparently. Has it led to the decrease in war? There has been a trend towards fewer global wars and a trend towards more women's suffrage judged from long time scales, but the connection seems tenuous at best.

By: djw

djw — Fri, 01 May 2009 05:24:20 +0000

Yes, but libertarians are a tiny fraction of the (male) population. The rest of them start ugly, liberty-destroying, state-growing wars with alarming regularity.

By: Kevin

Kevin — Fri, 01 May 2009 03:50:19 +0000

I'm sure that Thiel disapproves of the views of politicians even more than he does those of women.

By: Thiel on giving women the vote « Libertarian News Network

Thiel on giving women the vote « Libertarian News Network — Fri, 01 May 2009 02:37:34 +0000

[...] right floats off to Neverland. No girls allowed!”), a defense from Jason Kuznicki at Cato and commentary from Will [...]

By: Liz

Liz — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:03:13 +0000

I don't want to discount the role of voters since I'm well aware political leaders need to take constituencies into account, but Thiel never really mentions that men still very much dominate political leadership. Shouldn't that matter a /little/?

By: Craig

Craig — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:10:40 +0000

The answer to that one is clear – the welfare state. After all, when has it ever shrunk?
OTOH, there have been periods where disarmament has followed wars – after WWI and WWII (in the late 40s, there was massive demobilization), after Vietnam, and, most recently under Clinton when troop levels were cut post the Gulf War.

I am not saying that war can't be the health of the state, but libertarians misread modern history when they claim that it's been the biggest driver of government growth.