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	<title>Comments on: Does Obama Believe in Big, Government-Directed Breakthroughs?</title>
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		<title>By: uknowbetter</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/03/07/does-obama-believe-in-big-government-directed-breakthroughs/#comment-22985</link>
		<dc:creator>uknowbetter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 02:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>France is a free-rider of many things developed in the USA.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From healthcare to other areas, they benefit because we are more free. Do you actually think France is the engine of the global economy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>France is a free-rider of many things developed in the USA.</p>
<p>From healthcare to other areas, they benefit because we are more free. Do you actually think France is the engine of the global economy?</p>
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		<title>By: uknowbetter</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/03/07/does-obama-believe-in-big-government-directed-breakthroughs/#comment-22984</link>
		<dc:creator>uknowbetter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>France is a free-rider of many things developed in the USA.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From healthcare to other areas, they benefit because we are more free. Do you actually think France is the engine of the global economy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>France is a free-rider of many things developed in the USA.</p>
<p>From healthcare to other areas, they benefit because we are more free. Do you actually think France is the engine of the global economy?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve C</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/03/07/does-obama-believe-in-big-government-directed-breakthroughs/#comment-22983</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking through this list I don&#039;t see any reason to correlate govt spending as a % of GDP and overall well-being:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2008/03/government-spending-as-percentage-of.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2008/03/governmen...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think anyone would say that France is a pretty successful western democracy - I&#039;m lucky enough to spend a portion of my year there, I know many french people and have a good understanding of the economic climate, the work culture, levels of affluence, the challenges they face, etc.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t think France is something to aspire to, but then I&#039;m not particularly convinced the US is either.  You have lots of different models of &quot;success&quot; in the West, most of which involve policies and general political/social models that US libertarians hate, and for instance, people like you would have made hyperbolic statements about communism, predicting failure, etc 40-50 years ago.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The failures haven&#039;t happened.  But still, libertarians can&#039;t help themselves: it&#039;s not enough to admit straight out that you have certain taste preferences.  You believe so strongly in limited government that you warp your view of the world such that, say, 60% govt share of GDP in France MUST mean France is a failure as a nation/society/etc.  They must be either deranged or secretly hoping to be liberated.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And in the face of difficult-to-deal-with argument you trot out the slippery-slope communism stuff.  Pretty weak, is that all you got?  Must not be much to this little ideology of yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking through this list I don&#39;t see any reason to correlate govt spending as a % of GDP and overall well-being:</p>
<p><a href="http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2008/03/government-spending-as-percentage-of.html" rel="nofollow">http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2008/03/governmen&#8230;</a></p>
<p>I think anyone would say that France is a pretty successful western democracy &#8211; I&#39;m lucky enough to spend a portion of my year there, I know many french people and have a good understanding of the economic climate, the work culture, levels of affluence, the challenges they face, etc.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t think France is something to aspire to, but then I&#39;m not particularly convinced the US is either.  You have lots of different models of &#8220;success&#8221; in the West, most of which involve policies and general political/social models that US libertarians hate, and for instance, people like you would have made hyperbolic statements about communism, predicting failure, etc 40-50 years ago.</p>
<p>The failures haven&#39;t happened.  But still, libertarians can&#39;t help themselves: it&#39;s not enough to admit straight out that you have certain taste preferences.  You believe so strongly in limited government that you warp your view of the world such that, say, 60% govt share of GDP in France MUST mean France is a failure as a nation/society/etc.  They must be either deranged or secretly hoping to be liberated.</p>
<p>And in the face of difficult-to-deal-with argument you trot out the slippery-slope communism stuff.  Pretty weak, is that all you got?  Must not be much to this little ideology of yours.</p>
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		<title>By: uknowbetter</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/03/07/does-obama-believe-in-big-government-directed-breakthroughs/#comment-22982</link>
		<dc:creator>uknowbetter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You proved my point.  Hospitals focus on healthcare, not healthcare, national defense, immigration, police, courts, education, etc.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Government is inefficient no matter what it does, but the more you give it, the more inefficient it is.  Just look at these current bills and earmarks.  $7 billion in earmarks couldn&#039;t be included if the total bill was $20 billion.  It&#039;s so much easier to hide waste, fraud, abuse, incompetence when they are spread to all these different tasks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You proved my point.  Hospitals focus on healthcare, not healthcare, national defense, immigration, police, courts, education, etc.</p>
<p>Government is inefficient no matter what it does, but the more you give it, the more inefficient it is.  Just look at these current bills and earmarks.  $7 billion in earmarks couldn&#39;t be included if the total bill was $20 billion.  It&#39;s so much easier to hide waste, fraud, abuse, incompetence when they are spread to all these different tasks.</p>
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		<title>By: H.</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/03/07/does-obama-believe-in-big-government-directed-breakthroughs/#comment-22981</link>
		<dc:creator>H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Government is not a single entity. How can hospitals treat many kinds of disease? Because hospitals have many specialized departments and units. Doctors are not jacks of all trades. There are cardiologists, geriatricians, radiologists etc.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You are basically saying that the institution called a hospital should only treat 2 or 3 diseases because the more things you pile on it, the worse it will do them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Government is not a single entity. How can hospitals treat many kinds of disease? Because hospitals have many specialized departments and units. Doctors are not jacks of all trades. There are cardiologists, geriatricians, radiologists etc.</p>
<p>You are basically saying that the institution called a hospital should only treat 2 or 3 diseases because the more things you pile on it, the worse it will do them.</p>
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		<title>By: uknowbetter</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/03/07/does-obama-believe-in-big-government-directed-breakthroughs/#comment-22980</link>
		<dc:creator>uknowbetter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say this is unreal, but I meet people even more clueless than you everyday.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This financial crisis was caused by the government screwing around with the market. How hard is that to understand?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Keep living in fantasy land and lying to yourself.  I bet you haven&#039;t seen this article:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/02/oka_little_blas.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/02/oka_...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say this is unreal, but I meet people even more clueless than you everyday.</p>
<p>This financial crisis was caused by the government screwing around with the market. How hard is that to understand?</p>
<p>Keep living in fantasy land and lying to yourself.  I bet you haven&#39;t seen this article:<br /><a href="http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/02/oka_little_blas.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/02/oka_&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: uknowbetter</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/03/07/does-obama-believe-in-big-government-directed-breakthroughs/#comment-22979</link>
		<dc:creator>uknowbetter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are the one who described GWB as some sort of anti-government libertarian.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He was not.  He was a big government politician just like Obama.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You keep believing that the problem is that the magic wand just won&#039;t work unless enough people want it to.  The real issue is that there is no magic wand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are the one who described GWB as some sort of anti-government libertarian.</p>
<p>He was not.  He was a big government politician just like Obama.</p>
<p>You keep believing that the problem is that the magic wand just won&#39;t work unless enough people want it to.  The real issue is that there is no magic wand.</p>
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		<title>By: uknowbetter</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/03/07/does-obama-believe-in-big-government-directed-breakthroughs/#comment-22978</link>
		<dc:creator>uknowbetter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not?  Reality.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Heard the phrase, &quot;jack of all trades, master of none&quot;?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No entity (aside from some sort of god) can effectively do a million-and-one things.  The more things you pile on the government, the worse it will do them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not?  Reality.</p>
<p>Heard the phrase, &#8220;jack of all trades, master of none&#8221;?</p>
<p>No entity (aside from some sort of god) can effectively do a million-and-one things.  The more things you pile on the government, the worse it will do them.</p>
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		<title>By: uknowbetter</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/03/07/does-obama-believe-in-big-government-directed-breakthroughs/#comment-22977</link>
		<dc:creator>uknowbetter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are generally the basic functions of the nation-state: to uphold the law against those who violate it, foreign and domestic.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Like nearly all government, I would cut all three.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are generally the basic functions of the nation-state: to uphold the law against those who violate it, foreign and domestic.</p>
<p>Like nearly all government, I would cut all three.</p>
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		<title>By: uknowbetter</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/03/07/does-obama-believe-in-big-government-directed-breakthroughs/#comment-22976</link>
		<dc:creator>uknowbetter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We know that isn&#039;t the case.  If so, communism would have been wildly successful.  My arguments are from facts and history; yours are from wishful thinking in magic hopey-changey-land.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Even Keynes said that government should only take about 25% of GDP as a maximum ceiling.  We are well beyond that once you add up Federal, state, and local spending.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You might want to go read a book or two.  I&#039;d start with a few on the 20th century since you seem to know nothing about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We know that isn&#39;t the case.  If so, communism would have been wildly successful.  My arguments are from facts and history; yours are from wishful thinking in magic hopey-changey-land.</p>
<p>Even Keynes said that government should only take about 25% of GDP as a maximum ceiling.  We are well beyond that once you add up Federal, state, and local spending.</p>
<p>You might want to go read a book or two.  I&#39;d start with a few on the 20th century since you seem to know nothing about it.</p>
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