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	<title>Comments on: Bill Easterly on Peter Singer&#039;s The Life You Can Save</title>
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		<title>By: Gadget_Blog</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/03/06/bill-easterly-on-peter-singers-the-life-you-can-save/#comment-22746</link>
		<dc:creator>Gadget_Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a useful post here. Very informative for me..TQ friends...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://gadgettechblog.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gadgettechblog.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a useful post here. Very informative for me..TQ friends&#8230;</p>
<p>Cheers,<br /><a href="http://gadgettechblog.com" rel="nofollow">gadgettechblog.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: hubertus story</title>
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		<dc:creator>hubertus story</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 19:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raivo Pommer&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:raimo1@hot.ee&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;raimo1@hot.ee&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Caos und Arbeitlos&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Der Machtkampf zwischen Continental und Schaeffler eskaliert. Conti-Aufsichtsratschef Hubertus von Grünberg trat jetzt mit sofortiger Wirkung zurück.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;«Es zeichnet sich ab, dass Continental weiter Schaden nimmt«, sagte der 66-Jährige gestern in Frankfurt nach einer Sitzung des Aufsichtsrats des Autozulieferers. «Wir laufen Gefahr, in das Schaeffler-Problem hineingezogen zu werden.« Von Grünberg kritisierte, die schwer angeschlagene Schaeffler-Gruppe sei der Forderung nach einem tragfähigen Zukunftskonzept nicht nachgekommen und stattdessen auf Konfrontationskurs gegangen.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Der Herzogenauracher Autozulieferer, der wegen der auf Pump finanzierten Conti-Übernahme hoch verschuldet ist, wies die Vorwürfe von Grünbergs zurück. Grünberg habe das Vertrauen im Aufsichtsrat verloren, hieß es. Die Besprechung eines Zukunftskonzeptes habe bei der Sitzung in Frankfurt überhaupt nicht auf der Agenda gestanden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raivo Pommer<br /><a href="mailto:raimo1@hot.ee" rel="nofollow">raimo1@hot.ee</a></p>
<p>Caos und Arbeitlos</p>
<p>Der Machtkampf zwischen Continental und Schaeffler eskaliert. Conti-Aufsichtsratschef Hubertus von Grünberg trat jetzt mit sofortiger Wirkung zurück.</p>
<p>«Es zeichnet sich ab, dass Continental weiter Schaden nimmt«, sagte der 66-Jährige gestern in Frankfurt nach einer Sitzung des Aufsichtsrats des Autozulieferers. «Wir laufen Gefahr, in das Schaeffler-Problem hineingezogen zu werden.« Von Grünberg kritisierte, die schwer angeschlagene Schaeffler-Gruppe sei der Forderung nach einem tragfähigen Zukunftskonzept nicht nachgekommen und stattdessen auf Konfrontationskurs gegangen.</p>
<p>Der Herzogenauracher Autozulieferer, der wegen der auf Pump finanzierten Conti-Übernahme hoch verschuldet ist, wies die Vorwürfe von Grünbergs zurück. Grünberg habe das Vertrauen im Aufsichtsrat verloren, hieß es. Die Besprechung eines Zukunftskonzeptes habe bei der Sitzung in Frankfurt überhaupt nicht auf der Agenda gestanden.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Wiblin</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/03/06/bill-easterly-on-peter-singers-the-life-you-can-save/#comment-22744</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Wiblin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 04:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;whereas it is not at all clear that you (or anyone else) knows exactly what to do to save the lives of poor children or how to get them out of extreme poverty.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We don&#039;t know all of the conditions, but we know with near certainty the preventing rampant communicative diseases is a requirement for economic growth. Giving money directly for vaccinations, mosquito nets, etc will predictably save lives and . Likewise Kiva. So I don&#039;t think this claim really adds up. Surely one person with thousands of dollars to spend, could find a useful use for it if they tried, even if the estimated probability of actually saving a life is p= 0.9 rather than 1.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Another difference is that you are the one acting directly to save the drowning child, whereas there are multiple intermediaries between you and the poor child — an international charity, an official aid agency, a government, a local aid worker.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To a determinist utilitarian this rigthly makes no difference. If I push a rock, which hits another rock which then stops an out of control train and saves a child - am I less responsible because of the extra intervening rock? No way.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If my giving money makes it possible for someone else to save a life that rightly otherwise would have been lost, as an individual chooser I have made all that difference myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;whereas it is not at all clear that you (or anyone else) knows exactly what to do to save the lives of poor children or how to get them out of extreme poverty.&#8221;</p>
<p>We don&#39;t know all of the conditions, but we know with near certainty the preventing rampant communicative diseases is a requirement for economic growth. Giving money directly for vaccinations, mosquito nets, etc will predictably save lives and . Likewise Kiva. So I don&#39;t think this claim really adds up. Surely one person with thousands of dollars to spend, could find a useful use for it if they tried, even if the estimated probability of actually saving a life is p= 0.9 rather than 1.</p>
<p>&#8220;Another difference is that you are the one acting directly to save the drowning child, whereas there are multiple intermediaries between you and the poor child — an international charity, an official aid agency, a government, a local aid worker.&#8221;</p>
<p>To a determinist utilitarian this rigthly makes no difference. If I push a rock, which hits another rock which then stops an out of control train and saves a child &#8211; am I less responsible because of the extra intervening rock? No way.</p>
<p>If my giving money makes it possible for someone else to save a life that rightly otherwise would have been lost, as an individual chooser I have made all that difference myself.</p>
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		<title>By: jsalvati</title>
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		<dc:creator>jsalvati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post responds a bit to easterly: &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.givewell.net/?p=351&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blog.givewell.net/?p=351&lt;/a&gt;. That charity devotes itself to figuring out what works and encouraging current charities to collect the necessary data to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post responds a bit to easterly: <a href="http://blog.givewell.net/?p=351" rel="nofollow">http://blog.givewell.net/?p=351</a>. That charity devotes itself to figuring out what works and encouraging current charities to collect the necessary data to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: uknowbetter</title>
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		<dc:creator>uknowbetter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t disagree.  Kiva and the other micro-loan/finance places are great and I highly applaud their efforts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#39;t disagree.  Kiva and the other micro-loan/finance places are great and I highly applaud their efforts.</p>
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		<title>By: Arne</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/03/06/bill-easterly-on-peter-singers-the-life-you-can-save/#comment-22741</link>
		<dc:creator>Arne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the WSJ article completely fails to show that saving the poor children is not a moral imperative (for the people who are into that stuff). It bugs me that you call it a fact (am I misinterpeting you?). If the charities suck, then the supposedly nice and altruistic people should start one in their free time. If they really can&#039;t then surely they could spend an hour or so googling for a really efficient charity. If there is one that can show that it saves, for example one life for every thousand dollar (it seems like singer has some examples in his book) then how is it not a moral imperative to do it? And why don&#039;t people spend that hour in front of the computer trying to find a good charity? Because they don&#039;t really care. And they HATE IT when you mention it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A nice explanation of the phenomen:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cracked.com/article_14990_what-monkeysphere.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cracked.com/article_14990_what-monke...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;btw, I&#039;m selfish</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the WSJ article completely fails to show that saving the poor children is not a moral imperative (for the people who are into that stuff). It bugs me that you call it a fact (am I misinterpeting you?). If the charities suck, then the supposedly nice and altruistic people should start one in their free time. If they really can&#39;t then surely they could spend an hour or so googling for a really efficient charity. If there is one that can show that it saves, for example one life for every thousand dollar (it seems like singer has some examples in his book) then how is it not a moral imperative to do it? And why don&#39;t people spend that hour in front of the computer trying to find a good charity? Because they don&#39;t really care. And they HATE IT when you mention it.</p>
<p>A nice explanation of the phenomen:<br /><a href="http://www.cracked.com/article_14990_what-monkeysphere.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cracked.com/article_14990_what-monke&#8230;</a></p>
<p>btw, I&#39;m selfish</p>
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		<title>By: alphie</title>
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		<dc:creator>alphie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Obama allowing Bush&#039;s tax cuts to expire &lt;i&gt;isn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; the same thing as raising taxes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Obama allowing Bush&#39;s tax cuts to expire <i>isn&#39;t</i> the same thing as raising taxes?</p>
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		<title>By: Will Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/03/06/bill-easterly-on-peter-singers-the-life-you-can-save/#comment-22739</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure. The expert on this is Michael Clemens at the Center for Global Development, and highly recommend his papers on the topic, like this one: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cgdev.org/content/publications/detail/123641&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cgdev.org/content/publications/detai...&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The basic idea is simple. When having skills pays, people are more likely to develop them. If brain drain was a problem in general, then places that &quot;export&quot; a lot of skilled workers ought to lack them. But this doesn&#039;t seem to be true. Places that &quot;export&quot; lots of skilled workers, like nurses, often have as many or more than places that won&#039;t let citizens leave. How can this be? Because if there is a foreign market for your skills, you are more likely to seek training in the first place. The possibility of earning higher wages abroad creates an incentive for local talent to seek training. There are lots of complexities, but that&#039;s the logic of it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;More generally, development ought to be about the welfare of individuals, not the GDP of regions enclosed by arbitrary colonial boundaries. Countries don&#039;t own people, and it isn&#039;t OK to trap individuals inside political borders, where they will be much poorer, so that they have no alternative but to contribute to the local economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure. The expert on this is Michael Clemens at the Center for Global Development, and highly recommend his papers on the topic, like this one: <a href="http://www.cgdev.org/content/publications/detail/123641" rel="nofollow">http://www.cgdev.org/content/publications/detai&#8230;</a> </p>
<p>The basic idea is simple. When having skills pays, people are more likely to develop them. If brain drain was a problem in general, then places that &#8220;export&#8221; a lot of skilled workers ought to lack them. But this doesn&#39;t seem to be true. Places that &#8220;export&#8221; lots of skilled workers, like nurses, often have as many or more than places that won&#39;t let citizens leave. How can this be? Because if there is a foreign market for your skills, you are more likely to seek training in the first place. The possibility of earning higher wages abroad creates an incentive for local talent to seek training. There are lots of complexities, but that&#39;s the logic of it.</p>
<p>More generally, development ought to be about the welfare of individuals, not the GDP of regions enclosed by arbitrary colonial boundaries. Countries don&#39;t own people, and it isn&#39;t OK to trap individuals inside political borders, where they will be much poorer, so that they have no alternative but to contribute to the local economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/03/06/bill-easterly-on-peter-singers-the-life-you-can-save/#comment-22738</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does depend on who you give to, but it&#039;s also not that hard to find good charities to give to. Or to make a loan through Kiva. I agree that a lot of caring talk is pointless signaling, but it is possible for a little bit of money to help a good deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does depend on who you give to, but it&#39;s also not that hard to find good charities to give to. Or to make a loan through Kiva. I agree that a lot of caring talk is pointless signaling, but it is possible for a little bit of money to help a good deal.</p>
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		<title>By: David Stearns</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Stearns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will, I&#039;m wondering how you respond to the worry that Collier brings up in The Bottom Billion re: liberalizing immigration/emigration: namely that emigration is likely to drain away the talented, educated people from poor countries, leaving the home countries without the concentration of educated folks that Collier views as necessary to effectuate significant turnarounds in governance and policy. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not saying that people who improve their skills shouldn&#039;t be free to move to wherever they can maximize their opportunities, and I believe it would be immoral to prevent them (unless their education was subsidized, in which case I think it is reasonable to extract promises that they stay). And I don&#039;t want to minimize the real gains that accrue to those who do make it out. But while I think there are compelling reasons to encourage, or at least not prevent emigration, i&#039;m not sure that it doesn&#039;t make many people actually worse off who don&#039;t have the skills to get out because it leaves many with fewer spillover benefits of being around educated, talented folks. Thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will, I&#39;m wondering how you respond to the worry that Collier brings up in The Bottom Billion re: liberalizing immigration/emigration: namely that emigration is likely to drain away the talented, educated people from poor countries, leaving the home countries without the concentration of educated folks that Collier views as necessary to effectuate significant turnarounds in governance and policy. </p>
<p>I&#39;m not saying that people who improve their skills shouldn&#39;t be free to move to wherever they can maximize their opportunities, and I believe it would be immoral to prevent them (unless their education was subsidized, in which case I think it is reasonable to extract promises that they stay). And I don&#39;t want to minimize the real gains that accrue to those who do make it out. But while I think there are compelling reasons to encourage, or at least not prevent emigration, i&#39;m not sure that it doesn&#39;t make many people actually worse off who don&#39;t have the skills to get out because it leaves many with fewer spillover benefits of being around educated, talented folks. Thoughts?</p>
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