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	<title>Comments on: Sachs on the Self-Defeating Stimulus</title>
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		<title>By: Jer</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/23/sachs-on-the-self-defeating-stimulus/#comment-21897</link>
		<dc:creator>Jer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;conflating monetary policy with spending poilcy&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s kind of funny.  Some people call &quot;spending policy&quot; fiscal policy.  &quot;Spending policy&quot;, how very, very apt for the times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;conflating monetary policy with spending poilcy&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#39;s kind of funny.  Some people call &#8220;spending policy&#8221; fiscal policy.  &#8220;Spending policy&#8221;, how very, very apt for the times.</p>
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		<title>By: musa</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/23/sachs-on-the-self-defeating-stimulus/#comment-21896</link>
		<dc:creator>musa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 03:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, its more of a filter than a switch.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sachs&#039; thesis that policy shifts produce bubbles, which in turn cause larger economic pain down the road is interesting, but his argument is mostly grounded in: 1) conflating monetary policy with spending poilcy and 2) a bunch of assertions that aren&#039;t backed by any real evidence (to be fair, it is a short piece). Given #2, all I&#039;m really left with is Jeffrey Sach&#039;s good name that what he&#039;s asserting is reliable. His role in taking &quot;pre-ruined&quot; economies and re-ruining them in all sorts of new and interesting ways, and his generally dreadful book &quot;The End of Poverty&quot; (sorry, not enough time today to get into why this re-packaging of failed 1950s development ideas is so bad - oh wait I guess that&#039;s enough) all I&#039;m really left with is his name and my so-called &quot;switch&quot;. He&#039;s not a bad man, just not someone who, after producing a piece like this, should be taken seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, its more of a filter than a switch.  </p>
<p>Sachs&#39; thesis that policy shifts produce bubbles, which in turn cause larger economic pain down the road is interesting, but his argument is mostly grounded in: 1) conflating monetary policy with spending poilcy and 2) a bunch of assertions that aren&#39;t backed by any real evidence (to be fair, it is a short piece). Given #2, all I&#39;m really left with is Jeffrey Sach&#39;s good name that what he&#39;s asserting is reliable. His role in taking &#8220;pre-ruined&#8221; economies and re-ruining them in all sorts of new and interesting ways, and his generally dreadful book &#8220;The End of Poverty&#8221; (sorry, not enough time today to get into why this re-packaging of failed 1950s development ideas is so bad &#8211; oh wait I guess that&#39;s enough) all I&#39;m really left with is his name and my so-called &#8220;switch&#8221;. He&#39;s not a bad man, just not someone who, after producing a piece like this, should be taken seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Jer</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/23/sachs-on-the-self-defeating-stimulus/#comment-21895</link>
		<dc:creator>Jer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 02:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;conflating monetary policy with spending poilcy&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s kind of funny.  Some people call &quot;spending policy&quot; fiscal policy.  &quot;Spending policy&quot;, how very, very apt for the times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;conflating monetary policy with spending poilcy&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#39;s kind of funny.  Some people call &#8220;spending policy&#8221; fiscal policy.  &#8220;Spending policy&#8221;, how very, very apt for the times.</p>
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		<title>By: musa</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/23/sachs-on-the-self-defeating-stimulus/#comment-21894</link>
		<dc:creator>musa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, its more of a filter than a switch.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sachs&#039; thesis that policy shifts produce bubbles, which in turn cause larger economic pain down the road is interesting, but his argument is mostly grounded in: 1) conflating monetary policy with spending poilcy and 2) a bunch of assertions that aren&#039;t backed by any real evidence (to be fair, it is a short piece). Given #2, all I&#039;m really left with is Jeffrey Sach&#039;s good name that what he&#039;s asserting is reliable. His role in taking &quot;pre-ruined&quot; economies and re-ruining them in all sorts of new and interesting ways, and his generally dreadful book &quot;The End of Poverty&quot; (sorry, not enough time today to get into why this re-packaging of failed 1950s development ideas is so bad - oh wait I guess that&#039;s enough) all I&#039;m really left with is his name and my so-called &quot;switch&quot;. He&#039;s not a bad man, just not someone who, after producing a piece like this, should be taken seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, its more of a filter than a switch.  </p>
<p>Sachs&#39; thesis that policy shifts produce bubbles, which in turn cause larger economic pain down the road is interesting, but his argument is mostly grounded in: 1) conflating monetary policy with spending poilcy and 2) a bunch of assertions that aren&#39;t backed by any real evidence (to be fair, it is a short piece). Given #2, all I&#39;m really left with is Jeffrey Sach&#39;s good name that what he&#39;s asserting is reliable. His role in taking &#8220;pre-ruined&#8221; economies and re-ruining them in all sorts of new and interesting ways, and his generally dreadful book &#8220;The End of Poverty&#8221; (sorry, not enough time today to get into why this re-packaging of failed 1950s development ideas is so bad &#8211; oh wait I guess that&#39;s enough) all I&#39;m really left with is his name and my so-called &#8220;switch&#8221;. He&#39;s not a bad man, just not someone who, after producing a piece like this, should be taken seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/23/sachs-on-the-self-defeating-stimulus/#comment-21893</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least you don&#039;t think it was Milton Friedman! I&#039;m pretty sure these economies were pre-ruined. But yes, his privatization plans were ill-conceived basically because they didn&#039;t take Hayek seriously enough. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway, are you able to follow and evaluate an argument or do you just have a good guys/bad guys switch that determines what utterances you thoughtlessly accept and reject?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least you don&#39;t think it was Milton Friedman! I&#39;m pretty sure these economies were pre-ruined. But yes, his privatization plans were ill-conceived basically because they didn&#39;t take Hayek seriously enough. </p>
<p>Anyway, are you able to follow and evaluate an argument or do you just have a good guys/bad guys switch that determines what utterances you thoughtlessly accept and reject?</p>
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		<title>By: Will Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/23/sachs-on-the-self-defeating-stimulus/#comment-21892</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imminent repeal an excellent illustration of time inconsistency problems!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imminent repeal an excellent illustration of time inconsistency problems!</p>
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		<title>By: musa</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/23/sachs-on-the-self-defeating-stimulus/#comment-21891</link>
		<dc:creator>musa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeffy Sachs? Oh dear, that&#039;s the same guy who ruined both the Russian and Bolivian economies right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffy Sachs? Oh dear, that&#39;s the same guy who ruined both the Russian and Bolivian economies right?</p>
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		<title>By: luke</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/23/sachs-on-the-self-defeating-stimulus/#comment-21890</link>
		<dc:creator>luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wonder if you were singing this tune when it came to the Bush tax cuts.  Stable medium term policy indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wonder if you were singing this tune when it came to the Bush tax cuts.  Stable medium term policy indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/23/sachs-on-the-self-defeating-stimulus/#comment-21889</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry I had to see who Will Wilkison was and now I know. A laissez faire Repubican dolt. Let&#039;s see, the economy sucks real bad and needs something to be done, so let&#039;s tackle rewriting all of the regulation, tax policy, etc, to fix the economic woes - that get&#039;s people back to work, creates job, extends unemployment benefits....are you for real? It would take congress years to finally fix all of the regulatory and tax problems. By then, even more jobs would be loss, people&#039;s unemployment would be run dry, and we&#039;d be in a long-term recession. Spending money is the fastest, most effective way to stimulate the economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m sorry I had to see who Will Wilkison was and now I know. A laissez faire Repubican dolt. Let&#39;s see, the economy sucks real bad and needs something to be done, so let&#39;s tackle rewriting all of the regulation, tax policy, etc, to fix the economic woes &#8211; that get&#39;s people back to work, creates job, extends unemployment benefits&#8230;.are you for real? It would take congress years to finally fix all of the regulatory and tax problems. By then, even more jobs would be loss, people&#39;s unemployment would be run dry, and we&#39;d be in a long-term recession. Spending money is the fastest, most effective way to stimulate the economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jer</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/23/sachs-on-the-self-defeating-stimulus/#comment-21888</link>
		<dc:creator>Jer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 04:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One day I will be able to reply to a previous comment rather than create a new one.  Apparently that day is very far off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One day I will be able to reply to a previous comment rather than create a new one.  Apparently that day is very far off.</p>
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		<title>By: Jer</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/23/sachs-on-the-self-defeating-stimulus/#comment-21887</link>
		<dc:creator>Jer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 04:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To a degree, this is why I&#039;m curious as all fuck about liberalterianismestablishment-tarianism.  This word, it  just rolls off the tongue.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In my balls, I feel like I&#039;m all for it.  Because, well, in the son of the enlightenment sense, I&quot;m a liberal.  In the other sense - I just barely made it through econometrics for dummies - I&#039;m a libertarian.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But, Inflation is a regressive tax.  Sin taxes are regressive taxes.  (Etc., Etc., Etc.,) Square these circles and I&#039;m on board.  Shit, personally?  I&#039;m conflicted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To a degree, this is why I&#39;m curious as all fuck about liberalterianismestablishment-tarianism.  This word, it  just rolls off the tongue.</p>
<p>In my balls, I feel like I&#39;m all for it.  Because, well, in the son of the enlightenment sense, I&#8221;m a liberal.  In the other sense &#8211; I just barely made it through econometrics for dummies &#8211; I&#39;m a libertarian.</p>
<p>But, Inflation is a regressive tax.  Sin taxes are regressive taxes.  (Etc., Etc., Etc.,) Square these circles and I&#39;m on board.  Shit, personally?  I&#39;m conflicted.</p>
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		<title>By: Jer</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/23/sachs-on-the-self-defeating-stimulus/#comment-21886</link>
		<dc:creator>Jer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 03:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The argument is that the alternative to appropriately sized counter-cyclical fiscal policy and some pretty radical re-plumbing in the financial system is pretty damn bleak.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is that the argument, Paul?  A few might say that the massive influx of liquidity has begun to do the trick (yeah, chicago!  boo, everyone else!) and we should consider getting ready to stop future &quot;stimulative&quot; expenditures.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Inflation is a somewhat regressive taxation, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The argument is that the alternative to appropriately sized counter-cyclical fiscal policy and some pretty radical re-plumbing in the financial system is pretty damn bleak.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is that the argument, Paul?  A few might say that the massive influx of liquidity has begun to do the trick (yeah, chicago!  boo, everyone else!) and we should consider getting ready to stop future &#8220;stimulative&#8221; expenditures.</p>
<p>Inflation is a somewhat regressive taxation, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Norma Stits</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/23/sachs-on-the-self-defeating-stimulus/#comment-21885</link>
		<dc:creator>Norma Stits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t trust you Paul G. Brown.</description>
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		<title>By: E. Norma Stits</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/23/sachs-on-the-self-defeating-stimulus/#comment-21884</link>
		<dc:creator>E. Norma Stits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Propagandist fear mongering mularky...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Propagandist fear mongering mularky&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: chrismealy</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/23/sachs-on-the-self-defeating-stimulus/#comment-21883</link>
		<dc:creator>chrismealy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed.</description>
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