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	<title>Comments on: What Do Recent Nobel Prize-winning Macroeconomists Say about the Prospects of the Stimulus?</title>
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		<title>By: Loan Modification leads</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/21/what-do-recent-nobel-prize-winning-macroeconomists-say-about-the-prospects-of-the-stimulus/#comment-21749</link>
		<dc:creator>Loan Modification leads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 20:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this one.  I love their answers.</description>
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		<title>By: Loan Modification leads</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/21/what-do-recent-nobel-prize-winning-macroeconomists-say-about-the-prospects-of-the-stimulus/#comment-21748</link>
		<dc:creator>Loan Modification leads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 13:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this one.  I love their answers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this one.  I love their answers.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously.  Reason has a good article tracking the debacle of the housing bubble.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At one point, Congress (led mainly by Democrats) forced Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to make sure 50% of the loans they backed were given to people with incomes UNDER the median income of an area.  That&#039;s crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously.  Reason has a good article tracking the debacle of the housing bubble.</p>
<p>At one point, Congress (led mainly by Democrats) forced Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to make sure 50% of the loans they backed were given to people with incomes UNDER the median income of an area.  That&#39;s crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: manuelg</title>
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		<dc:creator>manuelg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; But our government’s behavior increasingly looks a bit like a zealous small-town narcotics squad, excited by its slick new SWAT gear, that’s just kicked down the door to a meth house and has started shooting at anything that moves.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You were not given permission to describe the Obama stimulus so succinctly and perfectly.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Consider this a first warning.  Keep this up for a few thousand more times, and there will be consequences, mister.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; But our government’s behavior increasingly looks a bit like a zealous small-town narcotics squad, excited by its slick new SWAT gear, that’s just kicked down the door to a meth house and has started shooting at anything that moves.</p>
<p>You were not given permission to describe the Obama stimulus so succinctly and perfectly.</p>
<p>Consider this a first warning.  Keep this up for a few thousand more times, and there will be consequences, mister.</p>
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		<title>By: odograph</title>
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		<dc:creator>odograph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got from &quot;There is an old, discarded theory that&#039;s been tried and failed spectacularly&quot; that he was pushing an ideological agenda, which puts us back where we&#039;ve been for the last 3-4 months, with economists splitting into trench warfare.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From his entrenched position &quot;Stimulus is not part of the language of economics.&quot;  I could quote someone from an opposing trench, but I don&#039;t have to when &lt;a href=&quot;http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/2009/02/news-flash-economists-agree.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;we all have seen Mankiw&#039;s list of list of economic agreement:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Fiscal policy (e.g., tax cut and/or government expenditure increase) has a significant stimulative impact on a less than fully employed economy. (90%)&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got from &#8220;There is an old, discarded theory that&#39;s been tried and failed spectacularly&#8221; that he was pushing an ideological agenda, which puts us back where we&#39;ve been for the last 3-4 months, with economists splitting into trench warfare.</p>
<p>From his entrenched position &#8220;Stimulus is not part of the language of economics.&#8221;  I could quote someone from an opposing trench, but I don&#39;t have to when <a href="http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/2009/02/news-flash-economists-agree.html" rel="nofollow">we all have seen Mankiw&#39;s list of list of economic agreement:</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Fiscal policy (e.g., tax cut and/or government expenditure increase) has a significant stimulative impact on a less than fully employed economy. (90%)&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Will Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/21/what-do-recent-nobel-prize-winning-macroeconomists-say-about-the-prospects-of-the-stimulus/#comment-21744</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I wish I could have given that more context. He&#039;s saying something like &quot;not a part of the language of the progressive research program or truly scientific economics.&quot; Prescott went on to compare the vocabulary of &quot;stimulus&quot; to the vocabulary of chemistry before Dalton. The claim is not that economists don&#039;t actually talk about stimulus all the time, but that when they do, they&#039;re stuck in a superseded paradigm. It&#039;s an incredibly bold claim that he might be wrong about, but it&#039;s not a lie. I thought his meaning was clearly enough implied in his talk about &quot;an old, discarded theory that&#039;s been tried and failed spectacularly&quot; but I guess not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I wish I could have given that more context. He&#39;s saying something like &#8220;not a part of the language of the progressive research program or truly scientific economics.&#8221; Prescott went on to compare the vocabulary of &#8220;stimulus&#8221; to the vocabulary of chemistry before Dalton. The claim is not that economists don&#39;t actually talk about stimulus all the time, but that when they do, they&#39;re stuck in a superseded paradigm. It&#39;s an incredibly bold claim that he might be wrong about, but it&#39;s not a lie. I thought his meaning was clearly enough implied in his talk about &#8220;an old, discarded theory that&#39;s been tried and failed spectacularly&#8221; but I guess not.</p>
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		<title>By: odograph</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/21/what-do-recent-nobel-prize-winning-macroeconomists-say-about-the-prospects-of-the-stimulus/#comment-21743</link>
		<dc:creator>odograph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never feature a lie so early, if you want to hold this reader:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Stimulus is not part of the language of economics,&quot; says Arizona State University economics professor Edward Prescott. &lt;/bockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never feature a lie so early, if you want to hold this reader:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Stimulus is not part of the language of economics,&#8221; says Arizona State University economics professor Edward Prescott. &lt;/bockquote&gt;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: John V</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/21/what-do-recent-nobel-prize-winning-macroeconomists-say-about-the-prospects-of-the-stimulus/#comment-21742</link>
		<dc:creator>John V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 01:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope. But most of them have been continually re-elected. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope. But most of them have been continually re-elected. <img src='http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John V</title>
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		<dc:creator>John V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 01:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Nobel itself isn&#039;t the key. It&#039;s what the Nobel is FOR.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Phelps has a Nobel for work related directly to the topic at hand.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A Nobel prize winning stimulus cheerleader like Krugman got his prize for trade theory.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hayek got his knowledge coordination in economics. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;d say that makes Hayek&#039;s and Phelps&#039; prize-winning insights more relevant to the stimulus debate than Krugman&#039;s. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In fact, Hayek&#039;s insights strike me as absolutely devastating to very foundations of stimulus debate itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Nobel itself isn&#39;t the key. It&#39;s what the Nobel is FOR.</p>
<p>Phelps has a Nobel for work related directly to the topic at hand.</p>
<p>A Nobel prize winning stimulus cheerleader like Krugman got his prize for trade theory.</p>
<p>Hayek got his knowledge coordination in economics. </p>
<p>I&#39;d say that makes Hayek&#39;s and Phelps&#39; prize-winning insights more relevant to the stimulus debate than Krugman&#39;s. </p>
<p>In fact, Hayek&#39;s insights strike me as absolutely devastating to very foundations of stimulus debate itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/21/what-do-recent-nobel-prize-winning-macroeconomists-say-about-the-prospects-of-the-stimulus/#comment-21740</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 23:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edmund Phelps looks a lot like he has a Nobel Prize to me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edmund Phelps looks a lot like he has a Nobel Prize to me!</p>
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