Comments on: Don't Panic! OK, Panic! And Now… Take a Deep Breath and Look Into My Eyes http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/05/dont-panic-ok-panic-and-now-take-a-breath-and-look-into-my-eyes/ The Sweet Release of Reason Tue, 22 May 2012 20:28:45 +0000 hourly 1 By: Lunchtime Links: Presidential Edition — FR33 Agents http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/05/dont-panic-ok-panic-and-now-take-a-breath-and-look-into-my-eyes/#comment-20616 Lunchtime Links: Presidential Edition — FR33 Agents Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:48:44 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=2709#comment-20616 [...] Wilkinson homes in on Obama’s paradox of fear: we must be frightened enough of recession to pass the stimulus in order to restore [...] [...] Wilkinson homes in on Obama’s paradox of fear: we must be frightened enough of recession to pass the stimulus in order to restore [...]

]]> By: The Uncredible Hallq » Obama’s stimulus rhetoric http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/05/dont-panic-ok-panic-and-now-take-a-breath-and-look-into-my-eyes/#comment-20615 The Uncredible Hallq » Obama’s stimulus rhetoric Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:08:36 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=2709#comment-20615 [...] week, Will Wilkinson caught an especially ridiculous bit of pro-stimulus rhetoric from Obama himself. Obama suggests that if we don’t do as he says, we’ll never recover. This is an obvious [...] [...] week, Will Wilkinson caught an especially ridiculous bit of pro-stimulus rhetoric from Obama himself. Obama suggests that if we don’t do as he says, we’ll never recover. This is an obvious [...]

]]> By: Michael Drake http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/05/dont-panic-ok-panic-and-now-take-a-breath-and-look-into-my-eyes/#comment-20617 Michael Drake Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:00:33 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=2709#comment-20617 "you’ve got to get people to flip out first, so that you can do what it takes to calm them down later"<br><br>Pretty sure the people were flipping out before they read this editorial. There remain reasonable doubts about the virtues and viability of the proposed legislation; but everyone was already pretty much on board with the idea that we're in an economic crisis that is more than merely disconcerting. “you’ve got to get people to flip out first, so that you can do what it takes to calm them down later”

Pretty sure the people were flipping out before they read this editorial. There remain reasonable doubts about the virtues and viability of the proposed legislation; but everyone was already pretty much on board with the idea that we're in an economic crisis that is more than merely disconcerting.

]]> By: Bill Gardner http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/05/dont-panic-ok-panic-and-now-take-a-breath-and-look-into-my-eyes/#comment-20618 Bill Gardner Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:35:02 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=2709#comment-20618 "This is both politically feasible and would work as well as or better than any alternative plan out there."<br><br>I agree with the proposal. What is the evidence that it is politically feasible? “This is both politically feasible and would work as well as or better than any alternative plan out there.”

I agree with the proposal. What is the evidence that it is politically feasible?

]]> By: Facebook User http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/05/dont-panic-ok-panic-and-now-take-a-breath-and-look-into-my-eyes/#comment-20620 Facebook User Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:12:01 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=2709#comment-20620 "Rahm Emmanuel ... kept the Congressional Democrats from porking it up so much.."<br><br>Lets just contemplate that for a while. “Rahm Emmanuel … kept the Congressional Democrats from porking it up so much..”

Lets just contemplate that for a while.

]]> By: UNRR http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/05/dont-panic-ok-panic-and-now-take-a-breath-and-look-into-my-eyes/#comment-20619 UNRR Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:56:48 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=2709#comment-20619 This post has been linked for the HOT5 Daily 2/6/2009, at <a href="http://unreligiousright.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">The Unreligious Right</a> This post has been linked for the HOT5 Daily 2/6/2009, at The Unreligious Right

]]> By: The Liberty Papers »Blog Archive » Quote Of The Day http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/05/dont-panic-ok-panic-and-now-take-a-breath-and-look-into-my-eyes/#comment-20614 The Liberty Papers »Blog Archive » Quote Of The Day Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:35:07 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=2709#comment-20614 [...] Wilkinson, on the Democrat [and media's] spin regarding the stimulus package: It’s Porkulus or starvation, nation. Choose sides [...] [...] Wilkinson, on the Democrat [and media's] spin regarding the stimulus package: It’s Porkulus or starvation, nation. Choose sides [...]

]]> By: Michael Drake http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/05/dont-panic-ok-panic-and-now-take-a-breath-and-look-into-my-eyes/#comment-20613 Michael Drake Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:00:33 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=2709#comment-20613 "you’ve got to get people to flip out first, so that you can do what it takes to calm them down later"<br><br>Pretty sure the people were flipping out before they read this editorial. There remain reasonable doubts about the virtues and viability of the proposed legislation; but everyone was already pretty much on board with the idea that we're in an economic crisis that is more than merely disconcerting. “you’ve got to get people to flip out first, so that you can do what it takes to calm them down later”

Pretty sure the people were flipping out before they read this editorial. There remain reasonable doubts about the virtues and viability of the proposed legislation; but everyone was already pretty much on board with the idea that we're in an economic crisis that is more than merely disconcerting.

]]> By: Bill Gardner http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/05/dont-panic-ok-panic-and-now-take-a-breath-and-look-into-my-eyes/#comment-20612 Bill Gardner Fri, 06 Feb 2009 11:35:02 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=2709#comment-20612 "This is both politically feasible and would work as well as or better than any alternative plan out there."<br><br>I agree with the proposal. What is the evidence that it is politically feasible? “This is both politically feasible and would work as well as or better than any alternative plan out there.”

I agree with the proposal. What is the evidence that it is politically feasible?

]]> By: Nick Caruso http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/05/dont-panic-ok-panic-and-now-take-a-breath-and-look-into-my-eyes/#comment-20611 Nick Caruso Fri, 06 Feb 2009 11:12:01 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=2709#comment-20611 "Rahm Emmanuel ... kept the Congressional Democrats from porking it up so much.."<br><br>Lets just contemplate that for a while. “Rahm Emmanuel … kept the Congressional Democrats from porking it up so much..”

Lets just contemplate that for a while.

]]> By: UNRR http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/05/dont-panic-ok-panic-and-now-take-a-breath-and-look-into-my-eyes/#comment-20610 UNRR Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:56:48 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=2709#comment-20610 This post has been linked for the HOT5 Daily 2/6/2009, at <a href="http://unreligiousright.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">The Unreligious Right</a> This post has been linked for the HOT5 Daily 2/6/2009, at The Unreligious Right

]]> By: webgrrl http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/05/dont-panic-ok-panic-and-now-take-a-breath-and-look-into-my-eyes/#comment-20609 webgrrl Fri, 06 Feb 2009 00:59:30 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=2709#comment-20609 My only reservation here WW is that the policy mechanism has to ensure no one saves their check and that the people who are most hurting get money now. <br><br>This is my only reservation with relying too heavily on the SS payroll tax cut - the people who will spend this money right away when we need them to probably aren't working. I think we should like to see most of the money go to unemployment really - let's say 45% of the money should go to the SS payroll tax cut and EITC. <br><br>To my mind these are the kinds of policy discussions we should be having - what percentages have proven most effective in the past? The Bush stimulus didn't work because it was all tax rebates, which got saved. So tax rebates aren't the best mechanism. But we've done this before at different times - what worked best then? Any comment? My only reservation here WW is that the policy mechanism has to ensure no one saves their check and that the people who are most hurting get money now.

This is my only reservation with relying too heavily on the SS payroll tax cut – the people who will spend this money right away when we need them to probably aren't working. I think we should like to see most of the money go to unemployment really – let's say 45% of the money should go to the SS payroll tax cut and EITC.

To my mind these are the kinds of policy discussions we should be having – what percentages have proven most effective in the past? The Bush stimulus didn't work because it was all tax rebates, which got saved. So tax rebates aren't the best mechanism. But we've done this before at different times – what worked best then? Any comment?

]]> By: I think Obama has a Plan… — Objectively Biased http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/05/dont-panic-ok-panic-and-now-take-a-breath-and-look-into-my-eyes/#comment-20607 I think Obama has a Plan… — Objectively Biased Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:52:46 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=2709#comment-20607 [...] least it seems he did when he wrote this editorial in today’s WaPo. Pace Will Wilkinson, I think Obama is trying to raise the level of debate on the Stimulus Package rather than lower [...] [...] least it seems he did when he wrote this editorial in today’s WaPo. Pace Will Wilkinson, I think Obama is trying to raise the level of debate on the Stimulus Package rather than lower [...]

]]> By: Porkulus and Iranian blogs | bradylee.com http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/05/dont-panic-ok-panic-and-now-take-a-breath-and-look-into-my-eyes/#comment-20600 Porkulus and Iranian blogs | bradylee.com Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:18:38 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=2709#comment-20600 [...] Porkulus or starvation, nation. Choose sides carefully. Is humor the only way to [...] [...] Porkulus or starvation, nation. Choose sides carefully. Is humor the only way to [...]

]]> By: Jeremy Pober http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/05/dont-panic-ok-panic-and-now-take-a-breath-and-look-into-my-eyes/#comment-20608 Jeremy Pober Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:02:16 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=2709#comment-20608 Will, I think you're a little off on this one. I think you'd be right if Obama were writing such an editorial in a relative vacuum, but its meaning in the current (political) context changes. In other words, I think he *would* be lowering the level of debate over the stimulus package if it hadn't already been lowered. Rather, I think he's responding to those critics, and I hope he's doing so in order to force those who refuse to have a substantive debate about what would make a good stimulus package into engaging in just such a debate. Will, I think you're a little off on this one. I think you'd be right if Obama were writing such an editorial in a relative vacuum, but its meaning in the current (political) context changes. In other words, I think he *would* be lowering the level of debate over the stimulus package if it hadn't already been lowered. Rather, I think he's responding to those critics, and I hope he's doing so in order to force those who refuse to have a substantive debate about what would make a good stimulus package into engaging in just such a debate.

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