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	<title>Comments on: New at Free Will: Lew Daly and Unjust Deserts</title>
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		<title>By: powerr</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very amazing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.staffingpower.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;staffing power&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: powerr</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very amazing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.staffingpower.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;staffing power&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: briceachang</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/02/new-at-free-will-lew-daly-and-unjust-deserts/#comment-20505</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 04:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot singlehandedly prop up the entire context of wealth-enabling institutions in which I am embedded, and since taxpayers paid for the education that enabled me to read and write, I deserve next to nothing of the economic value of this blog (if it has any). Daly and Alperovitz’s view comes &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thrift-savings-plan.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thrift savings plan&lt;/a&gt; down to the idea that, since we’re constantly enjoying and building on the positive spillovers of prior economic activity and earlier generations of wise governnance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot singlehandedly prop up the entire context of wealth-enabling institutions in which I am embedded, and since taxpayers paid for the education that enabled me to read and write, I deserve next to nothing of the economic value of this blog (if it has any). Daly and Alperovitz’s view comes <a href="http://www.thrift-savings-plan.net" rel="nofollow">thrift savings plan</a> down to the idea that, since we’re constantly enjoying and building on the positive spillovers of prior economic activity and earlier generations of wise governnance</p>
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		<title>By: There but for the grace of God &#171; Entitled to an Opinion</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/02/new-at-free-will-lew-daly-and-unjust-deserts/#comment-20504</link>
		<dc:creator>There but for the grace of God &#171; Entitled to an Opinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 01:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in general more seriously), but I have to acknowledge that Will Wilkinson cuts to the nub in his response to Daly&#8217;s egalitarianism. That I do not deserve my good fortune does not imply that everyone [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Nico D</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/02/new-at-free-will-lew-daly-and-unjust-deserts/#comment-20503</link>
		<dc:creator>Nico D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DWAnderson totally nails everything I want to say about the substance of the podcast, so I don&#039;t feel I need to say anything more about that, accept maybe to emphasize that I really don&#039;t see how it follows from the institutionalist points Daly makes to that society deserves all my earnings. OK, and I&#039;ll also say that &quot;political argument&quot; seems to mean that he wants to defeat desert-based arguments being used to argue against higher taxes, because this helps Daly satisfy his political preferences. As much as he seems to be a pretty intellectually honest person, this just seems depressingly willing to sacrifice the truth on the altar of politics.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now to style: Will, you&#039;re one of the best bloggers ever and one of my favorite thinkers, and I think you&#039;re more consistently right in your views than almost anyone. And I listen to every episode of Free Will. I just have to say: You really ramble too much! Free Will would go from awesome to transcendent if you could manage to express the same (brilliant) ideas in about half the words. Part of the problem is that you frequently dart off in a new direction mid-sentence, and attach lots of extra clauses. Also, I think you ought to let your guests talk a bit more, especially if they want to interject. Often when they&#039;re about to say something, you just keep going. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t know if it would be better to post this on bloggingheads, but I figured you&#039;d be more likely to read it here. Anyway, just some feedback from a big fan. Keep up the righteous work! :-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Oh, and why hasn&#039;t there been a new episode in more than a month? I really hope you pick it up again soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DWAnderson totally nails everything I want to say about the substance of the podcast, so I don&#39;t feel I need to say anything more about that, accept maybe to emphasize that I really don&#39;t see how it follows from the institutionalist points Daly makes to that society deserves all my earnings. OK, and I&#39;ll also say that &#8220;political argument&#8221; seems to mean that he wants to defeat desert-based arguments being used to argue against higher taxes, because this helps Daly satisfy his political preferences. As much as he seems to be a pretty intellectually honest person, this just seems depressingly willing to sacrifice the truth on the altar of politics.</p>
<p>Now to style: Will, you&#39;re one of the best bloggers ever and one of my favorite thinkers, and I think you&#39;re more consistently right in your views than almost anyone. And I listen to every episode of Free Will. I just have to say: You really ramble too much! Free Will would go from awesome to transcendent if you could manage to express the same (brilliant) ideas in about half the words. Part of the problem is that you frequently dart off in a new direction mid-sentence, and attach lots of extra clauses. Also, I think you ought to let your guests talk a bit more, especially if they want to interject. Often when they&#39;re about to say something, you just keep going. </p>
<p>I don&#39;t know if it would be better to post this on bloggingheads, but I figured you&#39;d be more likely to read it here. Anyway, just some feedback from a big fan. Keep up the righteous work! <img src='http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Oh, and why hasn&#39;t there been a new episode in more than a month? I really hope you pick it up again soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Wealth system &#124; Financial Articles Blog</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: newshutz</title>
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		<dc:creator>newshutz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope I am not too late to be noticed. It takes me a while to absorb and thing on some things.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It strikes me that much of what Lew was talking about can be addressed my Locke&#039;s provision for the proper ownership of land. You can make use of it, as long as you leave as much and as good for others. The ability of others to use what has been invented before is not limited by ones use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope I am not too late to be noticed. It takes me a while to absorb and thing on some things.</p>
<p>It strikes me that much of what Lew was talking about can be addressed my Locke&#39;s provision for the proper ownership of land. You can make use of it, as long as you leave as much and as good for others. The ability of others to use what has been invented before is not limited by ones use.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Auld</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/02/02/new-at-free-will-lew-daly-and-unjust-deserts/#comment-20500</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Auld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 04:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What did Lew mean when he said it was a political argument rather than a philisophical argument?  Sorry if this is obvious, but I am having a hard time figuring out what that actually means.</description>
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		<title>By: DWAnderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWAnderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I indicated in the comments on BloggingHeads, I thought this was a pretty good diavlog. Just because you can&#039;t say individuals deserve (by exogenous standards) a collectively generated surplus might mean &quot;no one deserves it&quot; rather than &quot;it should be divided equally.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By the end I think Lew was backing off the contention that everyone deserves an equal share of this collectively generated surplus, and retreating to the more limited claim that desert based arguments against government taxation or regulation are insufficient. I suspect both Will and Lew agree on this point.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Where I suspect they disagree is on whether there are other compelling justifications for respecting status quo wealth distributions and minimizing regulation and taxation. We never arrived at that argument however. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BTW, I think desert may well be an endogenous concept, by that I mean, if you have a &quot;just&quot; system than the participants in that system &quot;deserve&quot; what is theirs. For this insight I credit Robert Nozick because that was my first exposure to this notion. This use of the term &quot;desert&quot; rescues it from irrelevance (what would occur if no one deserved anything), but perhaps it is not consistent with the common understanding of the term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I indicated in the comments on BloggingHeads, I thought this was a pretty good diavlog. Just because you can&#39;t say individuals deserve (by exogenous standards) a collectively generated surplus might mean &#8220;no one deserves it&#8221; rather than &#8220;it should be divided equally.&#8221;</p>
<p>By the end I think Lew was backing off the contention that everyone deserves an equal share of this collectively generated surplus, and retreating to the more limited claim that desert based arguments against government taxation or regulation are insufficient. I suspect both Will and Lew agree on this point.</p>
<p>Where I suspect they disagree is on whether there are other compelling justifications for respecting status quo wealth distributions and minimizing regulation and taxation. We never arrived at that argument however. </p>
<p>BTW, I think desert may well be an endogenous concept, by that I mean, if you have a &#8220;just&#8221; system than the participants in that system &#8220;deserve&#8221; what is theirs. For this insight I credit Robert Nozick because that was my first exposure to this notion. This use of the term &#8220;desert&#8221; rescues it from irrelevance (what would occur if no one deserved anything), but perhaps it is not consistent with the common understanding of the term.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 13:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; I deserve next to nothing of the economic value of this blog (if it has any)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Isn&#039;t it possible that you only get next to nothing of the economic value of this blog, if you get any?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It strikes me that many people in society only get next to nothing of the value they created. For example, when I was a child I was prescribed probably life-saving antibiotics. This cost my parents about $30 for the doctor&#039;s visit and maybe $20 for the antibiotics. Okay, this was quite a few years ago, but still this money was trivial compared to what I have earned so far in my adult life, let alone the non-monetary value of my life (my parents seem to be glad I&#039;m alive).  Yet the doctor and the receptionist at the doctor clinic, and the pharmacist who handed over the medicine and the guys who delivered the medicine to the door and so forth only got paid peanuts for that particular peice of life-saving work.  &lt;br&gt;And the farmers who provide the food that keeps me alive also typically get paid trivial amounts compared to the value to me of not feeling hungry. &lt;br&gt;Now the reason that I can buy food and antibiotics at such a trivial percentage of my life-time earnings is that many other people also benefit from antibiotics and food, so farmers, doctors and the shareholders of pharmaceutical companies can take advantage from economics of scale and make a comfortable living despite that they don&#039;t get much of the consumer surplus that they create. And of course doctors and the shareholders of pharmaceutical companies benefit from farmers&#039; food production, and in many countries farmers can benefit from doctors and antibiotics. So society as a whole benefits far more from these surpluses.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now this is not true of every task. If I buy a painting for $100 direct from the artist and only get $120 worth of pleasure from it, and guests to my home only get a further $20 of value, and the artist only paid $10 for the materials, the artist is clearly getting a majority of the benefit rather than society as a whole. But even in the frivolous arts and literature the creator of the work does not necessarily get a majority of the value - for example a blockbluster writer like J. K. Rowling sold millions of books, but much of the value she created went to subsidising the fixed costs of all the books publishers produce that aren&#039;t blockblusters and a lot went to all the people who piggybacked on the pleasure she created (eg people involved in the Harry Potter movies, and subsidising all the movies made about books that don&#039;t earn what the producers paid to the original writer, producers of official Harry Potter merchandise, and the people who created and sold the materials fans of the book use to produce their own fanwork, eg stage makeup to draw the Potter scar on your kid&#039;s forehead), and also many of the fans of the Harry Potter works appear to get a great deal of pleasure out of them beyond the money they paid, and also whatever value society gets from the practice many kids got in reading skills. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So the idea that we only deserve a small part of the value we create implies that we should tax at a higher rate only those people who can gain the lion&#039;s share of their value, which on the whole implies people working in areas where there aren&#039;t significant gains to scale. Relative to existing practice, We should shift the tax burden away from the creators of easily-replicable value, such as authors and film-makers, to the creators of original non-replicated works (like theatre actors or live musicians or artists who earn large amounts of money from selling original works like Damien Hirst). We should tax people more the less valuable their efforts are to saving life or improving its quality (eg speech therapists should be taxed more than ER nurses) and the more their work depends on their individual skills compared to making use of the diverse products produced by others (eg nannies should be taxed more than aluminum refiners as aluminimum refining depends on a high level of capital and manufacturing costs so a lot of the value aluminium refiners create goes to the creators of the inputs.)  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Or, going back to my original point, the more people who read your blog, the less we should tax you, as it implies that whatever gain you get is mostly going to you. The more people who read your blog this implies the more value you are creating for society, either for people who believe they gain directly from your wisdom, or for people who enjoy having their ideas challenged by an intelligent mind even if they don&#039;t agree with you, or for people who love shooting down incredibly stupid ideas and find your blog a rich source of said ideas. Very popular bloggers are probably only getting next to nothing of the economic and non-economic value of their blogs, even if they gain vastly from it on a personal level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> I deserve next to nothing of the economic value of this blog (if it has any)</p></blockquote>
<p>Isn&#39;t it possible that you only get next to nothing of the economic value of this blog, if you get any?</p>
<p>It strikes me that many people in society only get next to nothing of the value they created. For example, when I was a child I was prescribed probably life-saving antibiotics. This cost my parents about $30 for the doctor&#39;s visit and maybe $20 for the antibiotics. Okay, this was quite a few years ago, but still this money was trivial compared to what I have earned so far in my adult life, let alone the non-monetary value of my life (my parents seem to be glad I&#39;m alive).  Yet the doctor and the receptionist at the doctor clinic, and the pharmacist who handed over the medicine and the guys who delivered the medicine to the door and so forth only got paid peanuts for that particular peice of life-saving work.  <br />And the farmers who provide the food that keeps me alive also typically get paid trivial amounts compared to the value to me of not feeling hungry. <br />Now the reason that I can buy food and antibiotics at such a trivial percentage of my life-time earnings is that many other people also benefit from antibiotics and food, so farmers, doctors and the shareholders of pharmaceutical companies can take advantage from economics of scale and make a comfortable living despite that they don&#39;t get much of the consumer surplus that they create. And of course doctors and the shareholders of pharmaceutical companies benefit from farmers&#39; food production, and in many countries farmers can benefit from doctors and antibiotics. So society as a whole benefits far more from these surpluses.</p>
<p>Now this is not true of every task. If I buy a painting for $100 direct from the artist and only get $120 worth of pleasure from it, and guests to my home only get a further $20 of value, and the artist only paid $10 for the materials, the artist is clearly getting a majority of the benefit rather than society as a whole. But even in the frivolous arts and literature the creator of the work does not necessarily get a majority of the value &#8211; for example a blockbluster writer like J. K. Rowling sold millions of books, but much of the value she created went to subsidising the fixed costs of all the books publishers produce that aren&#39;t blockblusters and a lot went to all the people who piggybacked on the pleasure she created (eg people involved in the Harry Potter movies, and subsidising all the movies made about books that don&#39;t earn what the producers paid to the original writer, producers of official Harry Potter merchandise, and the people who created and sold the materials fans of the book use to produce their own fanwork, eg stage makeup to draw the Potter scar on your kid&#39;s forehead), and also many of the fans of the Harry Potter works appear to get a great deal of pleasure out of them beyond the money they paid, and also whatever value society gets from the practice many kids got in reading skills. </p>
<p>So the idea that we only deserve a small part of the value we create implies that we should tax at a higher rate only those people who can gain the lion&#39;s share of their value, which on the whole implies people working in areas where there aren&#39;t significant gains to scale. Relative to existing practice, We should shift the tax burden away from the creators of easily-replicable value, such as authors and film-makers, to the creators of original non-replicated works (like theatre actors or live musicians or artists who earn large amounts of money from selling original works like Damien Hirst). We should tax people more the less valuable their efforts are to saving life or improving its quality (eg speech therapists should be taxed more than ER nurses) and the more their work depends on their individual skills compared to making use of the diverse products produced by others (eg nannies should be taxed more than aluminum refiners as aluminimum refining depends on a high level of capital and manufacturing costs so a lot of the value aluminium refiners create goes to the creators of the inputs.)  </p>
<p>Or, going back to my original point, the more people who read your blog, the less we should tax you, as it implies that whatever gain you get is mostly going to you. The more people who read your blog this implies the more value you are creating for society, either for people who believe they gain directly from your wisdom, or for people who enjoy having their ideas challenged by an intelligent mind even if they don&#39;t agree with you, or for people who love shooting down incredibly stupid ideas and find your blog a rich source of said ideas. Very popular bloggers are probably only getting next to nothing of the economic and non-economic value of their blogs, even if they gain vastly from it on a personal level.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg N.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 08:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this, Will. I thought of your work immediately when I was watching these guys on C-Span. I haven&#039;t read their book because I&#039;ve placed a moratorium on new books until I get through some old stuff, but I was hoping to see your review. This is even better; can&#039;t wait to watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, Will. I thought of your work immediately when I was watching these guys on C-Span. I haven&#39;t read their book because I&#39;ve placed a moratorium on new books until I get through some old stuff, but I was hoping to see your review. This is even better; can&#39;t wait to watch.</p>
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		<title>By: Website Directory - Deserts</title>
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		<title>By: PaN</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 03:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This I would have to say is one of the reasons why I love your commentary so. I pretty much agree with the first part of his argument as you do, in that the societal knowledge base is the cause of innovation. I believe that the wealth creation is based on the institutions that society creates. I would like to say academia is one of the main cause of innovation but that is probably caused by a bias sprouting from my overly romanticized view of academia, I love the idea of academia, working for the soul purpose of knowledge, I will put my deepest rooted belief in the fact that the institutions of academia in the liberal arts sense is one of the institutions that has provided a significant amount to knowledge to wealth creation. I do think that the author did down play that effect entrepreneurship has had on wealth creation.&lt;br&gt;I love how you pointed out one of the main flaws with the reasoning, the idea of just deserts. I have had a highly privileged life and I will not say that is my just desert, I am way above what I should justifiably have based on the wealth of my parents. But based on what I have I should try to expand what I have further for the pursuit of further wealth and also knowledge. What I gain from the wealth is not what I deserve but a result of the incentive systems put in place by institutions to evolve human knowledge. It is the government/the leadership of the societal institutions to set the incentive system up in a way that creates the largest incentive to have me work to expand knowledge. This does not necessarily mean expanding the knowledge provide services to people who work to expand knowledge, to make the expansion of knowledge easier.&lt;br&gt;I do value equity for two reasons though, the first is that I believe a certain level of equity in a society is a human right. I do not think this is based on what people deserve, but because of a moral responsibility of society to maintain the institutions to best expand the happiness of the people in said society.&lt;br&gt;I am sorry if my ideas come out in an unorganized manner, it was just written in a stream of conscious way, with little desire for it to make full sense, and without the initiative to edit it to make it more concise, I am sorry but I am selfish. I will not feel bad if you decline to read my ideas though, because it is written largely out of a desire to increase my utility by pretending my ideas have more use to society than they actually have and therefore giving me a false sense of purpose, I will not pass judgment on weather it provides a service or not. ... and I am done rambling on the nature of my ramblings, wasting server space for my utilitarian gain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This I would have to say is one of the reasons why I love your commentary so. I pretty much agree with the first part of his argument as you do, in that the societal knowledge base is the cause of innovation. I believe that the wealth creation is based on the institutions that society creates. I would like to say academia is one of the main cause of innovation but that is probably caused by a bias sprouting from my overly romanticized view of academia, I love the idea of academia, working for the soul purpose of knowledge, I will put my deepest rooted belief in the fact that the institutions of academia in the liberal arts sense is one of the institutions that has provided a significant amount to knowledge to wealth creation. I do think that the author did down play that effect entrepreneurship has had on wealth creation.<br />I love how you pointed out one of the main flaws with the reasoning, the idea of just deserts. I have had a highly privileged life and I will not say that is my just desert, I am way above what I should justifiably have based on the wealth of my parents. But based on what I have I should try to expand what I have further for the pursuit of further wealth and also knowledge. What I gain from the wealth is not what I deserve but a result of the incentive systems put in place by institutions to evolve human knowledge. It is the government/the leadership of the societal institutions to set the incentive system up in a way that creates the largest incentive to have me work to expand knowledge. This does not necessarily mean expanding the knowledge provide services to people who work to expand knowledge, to make the expansion of knowledge easier.<br />I do value equity for two reasons though, the first is that I believe a certain level of equity in a society is a human right. I do not think this is based on what people deserve, but because of a moral responsibility of society to maintain the institutions to best expand the happiness of the people in said society.<br />I am sorry if my ideas come out in an unorganized manner, it was just written in a stream of conscious way, with little desire for it to make full sense, and without the initiative to edit it to make it more concise, I am sorry but I am selfish. I will not feel bad if you decline to read my ideas though, because it is written largely out of a desire to increase my utility by pretending my ideas have more use to society than they actually have and therefore giving me a false sense of purpose, I will not pass judgment on weather it provides a service or not. &#8230; and I am done rambling on the nature of my ramblings, wasting server space for my utilitarian gain.</p>
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		<title>By: Unit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 23:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like Daly never read the &quot;I pencil&quot; story...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like Daly never read the &#8220;I pencil&#8221; story&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Amicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 22:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>neither do contemporary American citizens who have done even less than the entrepeneurs to create economic value&lt;br&gt;=====&lt;br&gt;Out of curiosity, what percentage of the annual national income, in say, 2004-2008, do you attribute to a group called &quot;entrepreneurs&quot;?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My point would be that, for what most people think of as entrepreneurship, that number is very, very small.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, how does a very small exception to a broad thesis help?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neither do contemporary American citizens who have done even less than the entrepeneurs to create economic value<br />=====<br />Out of curiosity, what percentage of the annual national income, in say, 2004-2008, do you attribute to a group called &#8220;entrepreneurs&#8221;?  </p>
<p>My point would be that, for what most people think of as entrepreneurship, that number is very, very small.</p>
<p>So, how does a very small exception to a broad thesis help?</p>
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