Veep Liveblog

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Oh, what the hell.

8:16 – Biden: Barack Obama will never raise taxes on anyone ever. Almost. McCain is middle-class-hating shill for megawealthy.

8:18 – Palin: Higher taxes not patriotic, Biden. Government off our snow machines! I did a good job remembering talking points about McCain’s health care tax credit plan! Budget-neutral: I can say it!

8:19 – Biden: Scranton, reprezent. Redistribution isn’t if you don’t call it that. Fairness! Health care, blah blah Bridge to Nowhere.

8:21 – Biden: How to save? Screw foreign assistance, tax cuts for rich, can’t “slow up on” stuff that’s the “engine”, like subsidies for the energy companies we’re not going to give tax cuts to. Tax havens unpatriotic!

8:23 – Palin: Dems are flipfloppers. In Alaska I wrestled oil companies, and bears! I had to undo Obama’s screw ups. Hey, I have no specific positions, so I’m just gonna do what’s right.

8:24 – Biden: McCain against counterproductive tax policies for energy companies. Shame!

8:26 – Palin: Johhny Mac does what’s right, too.

8:27 – Biden: Obama all over subprime before subprime cool.

Oh my god, I’m so bored.

8:29 – Palin: I’ll talk about what I want! Energy independence! East Coast politicians want ragheads to get rich and not Alaskans. Drill baby drill! Destroying the web of international economic interdependence America’s future.

8:31 – Palin: Extemp grammar weird. Global warming. Yeah, we’ve got glaciers in Alaska, so we need to pay more for energy by subsidizing the same energy companies I had to wrestle like polar bears.

8:32 – Biden: Global warming totally manmade. I know. I made it. By Talking. BO likes clean coal and safe nuclear. China: Dirty dirty coal. Give em our tech. McCain hates environment because he opposes causing hunger in third world children by subsidizing corn. Drilling won’t get us anywhere until 10 years, as if prices don’t reflect expectations of future production.

8:34 – Palin: YES! DRILL BABY DRILL. Biden, you’re full of shit.

8:36 – Biden: McCain voted 20 times against ethanol, etc. which is evil. Benefits for teh gays!

8:37 – Palin: Don’t redefine “marriage”! But, hey, consenting adults can dip their wick in whatever they dig. Love me some tolerance. Basically, I like teh gays, too, but need to spout party line.

8:38 – Biden: We don’t want to redefine marriage either!

8:40 – Biden: Petraus is a god. SURGE! It works! Spitting Biden’s words in face. Obama IS dangerous. Everybody hates quitters.

8:41 – Biden: You don’t have a plan. Timeline. McCain voted against something Obama voted against for a completely differenet reason, so they’re the same. McCain wants to fight the war forever.

8:42 – Palin: You guys are pussies. Obama can’t admit surge works. We’re done when Iraq can run itself, and the pros will let us know. Biden, you were a suck-up to McCain, and said that BO not ready, and I know you believe it.

8:44 – Biden: McCain VOTED AGAINST FUNDING! God damn it! How many times do I have to say it. Iran and Pakistan both dangerous and we should maybe attack them all. McCain thinks Iraq’s the issue, but really it’s Pakistan and if Bin Laden’s there, we’ll TAKE HIM OUT!

8:47 – Palin: Nukular. Like an American says it. I can say names of dictators! BO is SO naive. Diplomatic engagement great, but not with America-haters who hate our freedoms.

8:50 – Biden: Ahmedinawho not really in charge, so so freaking what if we talk to this nobody.McCain’s crazy and won’t talk to Spaniards.

8:51 – Palin: Two state solution: right on. Israel, we got your back. Listening Boca?

8:52 – Biden: Me and Israel totally BFFs. Bush FAIL. Blah blah.

8:54 – Palin: Bush not a total FAIL. But we’re not them, man, and we’re about the future, dude. Positive change is coming, yadda yadda.

8:55 – Biden: Look, Gwen. Gwen, look. Look. Gwen, let me tell you how stupid this dunce is. Really, they’re GWB clones.

8:56 – Palin: Nukular weapons are things people shouldn’t have except for us. Let me say dictator names again. We need Afghan surge! That’s worse than Bush, so not like him at all! Fighting terrorists and building schools for the children we’re not killing.

8:57 – Biden: Facts, matter Gwen. I’ll say it again. Some unnamed General says surge won’t work in Afghanistan. Let me say it again. 7 or 6 1/2. McCain against nuke test ban. BO, fresh off the turnip truck, all about getting nukes away from terrorists.

9:00 – Palin: It’s McClellan, dude. [But it isn't!] And he didn’t say anything against surge strat.

9:01 – Biden: Did too say that. BO is ALL ABOUT taking it to Afghan. Bosniacs! We can be world’s humanitarian police!

9:03 – Palin: I’m just a hick, so you’re gonna have to explain this to me. Why you for the war and McCain’s strategies until you became Veep, Joe? I don’t get it! In Alaska, we did something about Darfur?

9:05 – Biden: We should intervene IF WE CAN. I never supported McCain’s strategies. Always said this thing would be a mess.

9:06 – Palin: You DID TOO support McCain and give the shaft to Obama. Pundits: Go to the tape. McCain knows how to win a war because he was tortured in one his dad helped lose.

9:07 – Biden: OMG, it would be TERRIBLE national tragedy if Joe Biden had to be president. But I would be AWESOME at it.

9:09 – Palin: I’m not so slavish as Biden. I’m a Maverick! I’d bring Wasilla to Washington, should McCain bite it. Low taxes, win war! Woo hoo!

9:10 – Biden: People at Home Depot in Wilmington know McCain’s a Bush clone who will screw them.

9:11 – Palin: Doggone it, Joe! It’s not about Bush. God bless your teacher wife, Joe. Teachers should get more dough, because my whole family is teachers. I am SO RELATABLE.

9:13 – Palin: I’m funny! I know what a veep does. Overextends executive power!

9:14 – Biden: Basically McCain is against everything good, like education. I’m a doer. As a veep, I’d be the legislative point person. I’ll always be in the room to give BO advice.

9:16 – Palin: Founding Fathers were flexible in exactly specifying the veep’s powerlessness.So maybe exec, maybe legislative. We’ll do the right thing!

9:17 – Biden: Veep is executive, damn it. Break tie votes. That’s it. Cheney is a monster.

9:18 – Palin: Job interview question. My biggest weakness? That would be being awesomely experienced as an executive and also just a regular gal. Alaska is the heartland of the Yukon.

9:20 – Biden: My weakness. Excessive passion. Ask Mrs. Biden. I’m a total busybody. And I was a single parent. And know what it’s like to worry. And I’m a totally sensitive guy and I just might cry, I want this job so much.

9:22 – Palin: Maverick, maverick, maverick. McCain’s man we need to leave, er, lead.

9:23 – Biden: McCain no maverick. He’s basically Bush’s toadie. He hates children. Being a Maverick means supporting mainstream Democratic Party platform positions. So totally not a Maverick.

9:24 – Biden: View I had to change: I think judicial philosophy matters.

9:25 – Palin: View I had to change: I wanted to veto, but couldn’t. But I don’t compromise!

9:27 – Biden: Changing the tone. Even McCain knows I work across the aisle. I never question motives. I mean, Cheney is a monster. But I don’t question motives.

9:28 – Palin: You appoint the best people. You do what it talks. I’ve got a “diverse” family. You want jobs, lower taxes, infrastructure, less spending etc. or more taxes, more spending?

9:29 – Palin: Final statement: I like tough questions without media telling you I’m stupid. McCain and i are gonna fight for families like mine. Oh, I know the joys! Proud to be American. Freedom! Gotta fight for it and pass it on or we’ll retire in tyranny. John McCain: Fighter!

9:31 – Biden: Look folks. Look. Most important election in your life. We’re in a hole. Need fundamental change. BO and me don’t measure progress by how well plutocrats do, but by mortgages, tuition, send kids off to fight, they get health care. In my neighborhood, about dignity and respect. If you work hard, you can do anything. To reestablish that sense. Champ, get up! BO is ready! God bless all of you and mostly our troops.

I am never doing that again.

Snap judgment. Palin was not a disaster. Might do something to arrest McCain slide, but fundamentally changes nothing.

36 thoughts on “Veep Liveblog”

  3. Biden is a pompous windbag. He's been in DC since I was 9 (I'm now 46). He's got so much pork sticking out of his ass, he can't stand up straight.

    Palin is weak, and showing wear of being overhandled.

    Nothing tonight that will move the polls, IMHO.

  5. Biden reminds me a used car salesman. Palin did good. I don't know if it changes anything. I can't stand the Modern Liberal's Socialism so McCain is the man.

    I do have to laugh when Biden talked about regulation (as in Fannie Mae and Wall Street). Congress was the oversight over Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac AND their work to turn the mortgage industry into a social program ala the Community Reinvestment Act was the root cause of this whole mess. It was just funny watching Biden ignore such key facts.

  6. Very amusing.

    I refused to watch the debate, and I'm taking this to be more informative.

  7. Great live blog! lol

    Alz says: “I can't stand the Modern Liberal's Socialism so McCain is the man.”

    Good luck fighting socialism with McCain. And thanks so much for capitalizing Modern Liberal's Socialism, otherwise I wouldn't have known precisely which liberals you were referring to! The capitalization suggests you're talking about the whole cohesive mass of people that lean left on social/economic issues. Thanks again.

  8. Here is specifically what I am referring to. Watch “How Modern Liberals Think” by a guy named Evan Sayet. He used to write for Bill Maher. It's very good. You'll need some quiet time (45 minutes). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c

    And, yes, you are right about McCain, but Obama represents the worst of Modern Liberalism. That video has changed a lot about how I think about “liberals.”

  13. I watched School of Rock on TNT instead. I probably learned more and was not bored.

    Funny post.

  16. how silly is it all? Let's face it, if Palin had answered 'Your biggest weakness?' question with 'Tina Fey' everyone would be saying this morning how well she did – that's how silly it all is.

  17. “I am never doing that again.”

    That's a shame. Much better than the real thing, and more accurate to boot…

  21. Nice post. An excellent synopsis of what happened. The debate was definitely not a game changer. Interestingly enough, as there were no knock-out punches, both sides claim victory. Hell, had a haymaker landed and one of the parties had hit the deck and bled to death, both sides would still claim victory!

  22. Haha–”Biden: Look, Gwen. Gwen, look. Look. Gwen, let me tell you how stupid this dunce is. Really, they’re GWB clones.”

  23. Democrats will vote for the Democrat. Republicans will vote for the Republican. That’s how it has always been.
    John McCain and Joe Biden are politicians. They know their numbers, and they know Washington.
    What is different about this election is culture. Where is America going, culturally?
    This is where Barack Obama and Sarah Palin come in.
    Some say race is a factor against Obama, but I say it is the opposite: Obama has been propelled upwards by his skin color. The positive ‘racism’ (Black-Americans supporting him, White-Americans feeling guilty about the legacy of slavery) far outweighs the few remaining pockets of negative racism (traditional bigotry) that still exist in our country.
    Whereas Black-Americans account for 12 percent of America, women number about 51 percent.
    This is where America’s reaction to Sarah Palin gets interesting. It is not only sexism at play, but regionalism too. Keep in mind that America’s reaction could be vastly different from the media’s reaction, which tries to intervene in how America thinks and observes for itself.
    For the last decade, American women have been trying to become either the fifth ‘Manhattanite’ cast member of ‘Sex and the City’ or a ‘Desperate Housewife’ on Wisteria Lane. The White male executives who created, packaged and marketed these female stereotypes have made plenty of money as women across America spent time and money trying to become ‘Carrie Bradshaw’. But somehow, these wanna-be’s never lived it up as glamorously.
    Sarah Palin is all about God, Family, Country and Shot-Guns. She is a completely New American Woman. She was not constructed by a Public Relations agency in either New York City or Los Angeles. She is not a Hollywood creation. Sarah Palin is simply a product of American small-town wholesomeness: happy childhood, hard work, self-discipline and a bright, and almost chirpy, outlook on life.
    Sarah is not the high-maintenance, drama-seeking, bulimia-suffering fragile caricature of a working woman as peddled by TV.
    Her husband, Todd Palin, is not a neurotic metro-sexual obsessing over the price of organic arugula, or whining about his commitment phobias to his shrink. He is a man’s man, and frankly, a woman’s man: just your regular American guy—wholesome and uncomplicated.
    Sarah and Todd are American ‘retro’, but it is retro made cool all over again. They are a brand of Americana that has been tested and true—genuine, confident and mature.
    Something happened to the Obama brand on the way to the election. It is as if the fashion gods decided that “Didn’t you know? No one wears Obama after Labour Day.”
    Once exotic and different, the Obama brand has been turned into something weird and creepy. “Obama’s Witnesses,” “Obama’s Blue-Shirts,” “The Obama Youth Fraternity League”…Plus, after the initial swooning over him, most people still think that there’s something “off” about Obama; as if he’s hollow, or hiding something.
    Today, the Obama brand has become decidedly “uncool”. That’s why people tuned out from watching him debate McCain.
    On the other hand, Americans are discovering that they are intrigued by Sarah Palin. The TV pundits may want to spin things their way, but the surest measure of who won the Vice-Presidential Debate is that, at the end, the vast majority of viewers walked away from their TV sets and said to themselves, “I’d like to see more of Sarah Palin—unfiltered and uncut.”
    The Obama camp may be celebrating too early. There are still plenty of people out there that haven’t made up their mind, and Obama’s triumphalism may begin to sound like arrogance, and he’s already been accused of that.
    This is indeed a culturally interesting time to be an American.

  25. wooossh.What a long yet hilarious conversation you have there.
    Nowadays,blog posts are really created creatively. ONly one topic but they've come up with so many ways to deliver it..

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