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		<title>By: Gregory J Hoffman</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/09/16/qualifications-and-sarah-palins-crazy-politics/#comment-17119</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory J Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice article! nice site. you&#039;re in my rss feed now ;-)&lt;br&gt;keep it up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice article! nice site. you&#39;re in my rss feed now <img src='http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> <br />keep it up</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Light</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/09/16/qualifications-and-sarah-palins-crazy-politics/#comment-17118</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Micha- thanks for your reply. In the strict sense, yeah, you&#039;re correct. Obama and McCain share a common starting point in that they are both progressives (John McCain&#039;s hero after all is TR). Like all progressives, whether they&#039;re actually aware of it consciously or not, they deny that human beings &lt;i&gt;qua&lt;/i&gt; human beings actually &lt;i&gt;own&lt;/i&gt; themselves and thus deny, in any real sense, any true ownership in property. The policy upshot is that whatever rights we have are not inalienable; whatever government gives, government can just as easily take away. (A subject I know is dear to Will&#039;s heart, which he puts down as a curious chestnut of mine -- my &quot;plucking of the one-string&quot; as I recall). This is another way of saying that rights cease to be natural and become socialized.  This is how Leftists and not a few libertarians essentially view rights.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Be that as it may, McCain&#039;s &quot;soul&quot; and disposition is of a conservative sort -- despite how &quot;ungrounded&quot; it may be in many respects -- and so I&#039;m quite confident he&#039;d be far more chary than, say, Obama, in how far he&#039;s willing to push that socialization of rights (confiscatory levels of taxation; appointing jurists who would further implement international law into the Constitution; the withering away of our national sovereignty, etc.). But, yes, I think you&#039;re right in principle -- there&#039;s no formal reason why McCain can&#039;t go whole-hog and be as much of a profligate, reckless jackass as Obama and his assorted pseudo-Marxist phucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Micha- thanks for your reply. In the strict sense, yeah, you&#39;re correct. Obama and McCain share a common starting point in that they are both progressives (John McCain&#39;s hero after all is TR). Like all progressives, whether they&#39;re actually aware of it consciously or not, they deny that human beings <i>qua</i> human beings actually <i>own</i> themselves and thus deny, in any real sense, any true ownership in property. The policy upshot is that whatever rights we have are not inalienable; whatever government gives, government can just as easily take away. (A subject I know is dear to Will&#39;s heart, which he puts down as a curious chestnut of mine &#8212; my &#8220;plucking of the one-string&#8221; as I recall). This is another way of saying that rights cease to be natural and become socialized.  This is how Leftists and not a few libertarians essentially view rights.  </p>
<p>Be that as it may, McCain&#39;s &#8220;soul&#8221; and disposition is of a conservative sort &#8212; despite how &#8220;ungrounded&#8221; it may be in many respects &#8212; and so I&#39;m quite confident he&#39;d be far more chary than, say, Obama, in how far he&#39;s willing to push that socialization of rights (confiscatory levels of taxation; appointing jurists who would further implement international law into the Constitution; the withering away of our national sovereignty, etc.). But, yes, I think you&#39;re right in principle &#8212; there&#39;s no formal reason why McCain can&#39;t go whole-hog and be as much of a profligate, reckless jackass as Obama and his assorted pseudo-Marxist phucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Micha Ghertner</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/09/16/qualifications-and-sarah-palins-crazy-politics/#comment-17117</link>
		<dc:creator>Micha Ghertner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 01:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Essentially government allowing us to keep whatever property we may currently have is the normative assumption/essence behind our death and income taxes. That is socialistic.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But this makes Obama just as much of a socialist as McCain, in which case calling Obama a socialist as a reason to vote for McCain is simply absurd. I don&#039;t have a problem with consistent libertarians who refuse to vote for either major party candidate calling Obama a socialist; I do have a problem with prospective Republican voters doing so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Essentially government allowing us to keep whatever property we may currently have is the normative assumption/essence behind our death and income taxes. That is socialistic.</p></blockquote>
<p>But this makes Obama just as much of a socialist as McCain, in which case calling Obama a socialist as a reason to vote for McCain is simply absurd. I don&#39;t have a problem with consistent libertarians who refuse to vote for either major party candidate calling Obama a socialist; I do have a problem with prospective Republican voters doing so.</p>
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		<title>By: RobertLight</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/09/16/qualifications-and-sarah-palins-crazy-politics/#comment-17116</link>
		<dc:creator>RobertLight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is not nearly a socialist? Okay, well, I agree, he&#039;s not a socialist in the &quot;purist&quot; sense that he&#039;s not advocating government seizure of industry or the abolition of private property (at least not outright). But you do know there&#039;s a panoply of varieties of socialism (cf. Georg Lichtheim&#039;s book, _Marxism: an Historical and Critical Study_, which gives a nice history and overview: &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/4mkzsl&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/4mkzsl&lt;/a&gt; , especially of European social democracy under Bernstein, the tradition to which Saul Alinsky -- and thus Obama -- is attached). Essentially government allowing us to keep whatever property we may currently have is the normative assumption/essence behind our death and income taxes. That is socialistic. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;See here as well for an excellent series of articles published at Investors Business Daily. High-toned Rawlsekian analysis it is not. Just dirty unvarnished facts, but valuable nonetheless:  The Audacity of Socialism: a Series:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ibdeditorials.com/series8.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ibdeditorials.com/series8.aspx&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is not nearly a socialist? Okay, well, I agree, he&#39;s not a socialist in the &#8220;purist&#8221; sense that he&#39;s not advocating government seizure of industry or the abolition of private property (at least not outright). But you do know there&#39;s a panoply of varieties of socialism (cf. Georg Lichtheim&#39;s book, _Marxism: an Historical and Critical Study_, which gives a nice history and overview: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/4mkzsl" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/4mkzsl</a> , especially of European social democracy under Bernstein, the tradition to which Saul Alinsky &#8212; and thus Obama &#8212; is attached). Essentially government allowing us to keep whatever property we may currently have is the normative assumption/essence behind our death and income taxes. That is socialistic. </p>
<p>See here as well for an excellent series of articles published at Investors Business Daily. High-toned Rawlsekian analysis it is not. Just dirty unvarnished facts, but valuable nonetheless:  The Audacity of Socialism: a Series:  <a href="http://www.ibdeditorials.com/series8.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.ibdeditorials.com/series8.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: pfjobrien</title>
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		<dc:creator>pfjobrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 03:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You won&#039;t hear that from me... I think she&#039;s unqualified simply because she hasn&#039;t been in office long enough to determine her political ideology nor has she  declared it explicitly. I don&#039;t care if even has a degree if her ideas are sound... degrees themselves have no intrinsic worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You won&#39;t hear that from me&#8230; I think she&#39;s unqualified simply because she hasn&#39;t been in office long enough to determine her political ideology nor has she  declared it explicitly. I don&#39;t care if even has a degree if her ideas are sound&#8230; degrees themselves have no intrinsic worth.</p>
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		<title>By: pfjobrien</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/09/16/qualifications-and-sarah-palins-crazy-politics/#comment-17105</link>
		<dc:creator>pfjobrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 03:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say that Obama&#039;s health plan of massive government oversight, regulation and mandatory, subsidized health insurance very nearly nationalizes 15% of the entire U.S. economy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not to mention his New Deal lust and more frighteningly, his &quot;social justice&quot; vision of government. Recall how closely he worked with ACORN and Clinton empowered CRA update.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That might not quite be Marx&#039;s vision but it is the product of Obama&#039;s fundamental disregard for private property rights. Once those go, then socialism isn&#039;t that far removed. So, while it may be a bit of hperbole to call him a socialist, it isn&#039;t so far removed from the truth that it warrants a dismissive reply.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That being said, for an empty shirt like GWB, the advisors are of huge concern but for a man like Sen. Obama, it matters little to me. He has a vision of the world and it&#039;s that vision that troubles me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say that Obama&#39;s health plan of massive government oversight, regulation and mandatory, subsidized health insurance very nearly nationalizes 15% of the entire U.S. economy.</p>
<p>Not to mention his New Deal lust and more frighteningly, his &#8220;social justice&#8221; vision of government. Recall how closely he worked with ACORN and Clinton empowered CRA update.</p>
<p>That might not quite be Marx&#39;s vision but it is the product of Obama&#39;s fundamental disregard for private property rights. Once those go, then socialism isn&#39;t that far removed. So, while it may be a bit of hperbole to call him a socialist, it isn&#39;t so far removed from the truth that it warrants a dismissive reply.</p>
<p>That being said, for an empty shirt like GWB, the advisors are of huge concern but for a man like Sen. Obama, it matters little to me. He has a vision of the world and it&#39;s that vision that troubles me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama strikes you as central-casting picture of an executive? For serious? I don&#039;t like him and I&#039;m not voting for him (nor McCain, either), so take my opinion for what it&#039;s worth, but Obama strikes me as the boss&#039;s son with the easy promotion. Not really management material otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama strikes you as central-casting picture of an executive? For serious? I don&#39;t like him and I&#39;m not voting for him (nor McCain, either), so take my opinion for what it&#39;s worth, but Obama strikes me as the boss&#39;s son with the easy promotion. Not really management material otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Tee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Tee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How are gainfully employed being this obtuse?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Seriously. If there&#039;s a retard olympics, you come in last.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m a libertarian who&#039;ll vote for a socialist! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Those degrees from TTT have served you well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How are gainfully employed being this obtuse?</p>
<p>Seriously. If there&#39;s a retard olympics, you come in last.</p>
<p>I&#39;m a libertarian who&#39;ll vote for a socialist! </p>
<p>Those degrees from TTT have served you well.</p>
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		<title>By: GilM</title>
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		<dc:creator>GilM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does anybody need to have done to deserve to be President?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think you need to be able to convince a plurality of people (given the electoral system, etc.) that they can be more comfortable (or less uncomfortable) with you as cheif executive.  I don&#039;t really think that there&#039;s any list of qualifications  that are necessary and sufficient to guarantee a qualified president.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for Obama&#039;s liberalness...I think that there are various organizations that rank them differently, based on differently chosen key votes.  I don&#039;t think there&#039;s a definitive ranking, but it&#039;s probably fair to say that he&#039;s among the most left-liberal in the Senate.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But, as Will indicates, that doesn&#039;t make him a socialist.  Just an advocate of pretty bad policies. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;McCain is also an advocate of pretty bad policies, and whether he&#039;s worse depends on how you rank the differences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does anybody need to have done to deserve to be President?</p>
<p>I think you need to be able to convince a plurality of people (given the electoral system, etc.) that they can be more comfortable (or less uncomfortable) with you as cheif executive.  I don&#39;t really think that there&#39;s any list of qualifications  that are necessary and sufficient to guarantee a qualified president.</p>
<p>As for Obama&#39;s liberalness&#8230;I think that there are various organizations that rank them differently, based on differently chosen key votes.  I don&#39;t think there&#39;s a definitive ranking, but it&#39;s probably fair to say that he&#39;s among the most left-liberal in the Senate.</p>
<p>But, as Will indicates, that doesn&#39;t make him a socialist.  Just an advocate of pretty bad policies. </p>
<p>McCain is also an advocate of pretty bad policies, and whether he&#39;s worse depends on how you rank the differences.</p>
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		<title>By: WJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>WJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To GilM:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thank you for your comment.  I certainly will not disagree with your opinion that Obama has run an effective presidential campaign.  It just seems a little bit of circular reasoning to say running for president makes you capable of being president.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I still wonder what Obama has actually accomplished that would make him be a man of remarkable competence.  Making to a US Senator is no trivial matter obviously, but it just doesn&#039;t seem as that is achieving something besides a promotion.  I wonder what he has done to deserve promotion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Finally, am I wrong in my opinion that his previous positions and votes make him one of the 2 or 3 most liberal US Senators?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,&lt;br&gt;WJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To GilM:</p>
<p>Thank you for your comment.  I certainly will not disagree with your opinion that Obama has run an effective presidential campaign.  It just seems a little bit of circular reasoning to say running for president makes you capable of being president.  </p>
<p>I still wonder what Obama has actually accomplished that would make him be a man of remarkable competence.  Making to a US Senator is no trivial matter obviously, but it just doesn&#39;t seem as that is achieving something besides a promotion.  I wonder what he has done to deserve promotion.</p>
<p>Finally, am I wrong in my opinion that his previous positions and votes make him one of the 2 or 3 most liberal US Senators?</p>
<p>Regards,<br />WJ</p>
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