Comments on: Ranting Cant

By: This and That.

This and That. — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 03:20:53 +0000

[...] Here’s an entry on a blog that’s new to me, The Fly Bottle. [Don't ask.] A sample: Climate eschatology really is the ultimate in big lie crisis politics. The far-left has failed so comprehensively to make the case for its vision of society and economy that the only thing left to do is to brazenly and repeatedly assert that the world will literally collapse unless we implement this otherwise indefensible vision. [...]

By: Whig

Whig — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:14:02 +0000

*Why assume bad faith and corrupt motives? Can't they just disagree with your assessment of the world and what the factual evidence says about it?*

But this is exactly the modus operandi of the climate-change fanatics: it is THEY who are characterized by a failure to make scientific statements.

As for `the climatologists', you'll find that their actual peer-reviewed statements on climate change are a great deal more… nuanced than the fanatics – chief among them Al Gore – are ready to make.

By: Whig

Whig — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:14:02 +0000

*Why assume bad faith and corrupt motives? Can't they just disagree with your assessment of the world and what the factual evidence says about it?*

But this is exactly the modus operandi of the climate-change fanatics: it is THEY who are characterized by a failure to make scientific statements.

By: Sean

Sean — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 02:40:19 +0000

Also Eric – there's no such thing as 'clean' anything (water,air,or whatever you care to name). You may want to look up the word 'inundated' before you use it to describe the level of contaminants in our water supply. And finally, what mathematics say we can't keep living like this – I bet is says the same for life period! Get a grip and wake up – in 10 years when this nonsense has been replaced by the next idiocy of the collectivists you'll either be wise to them and laugh – or you're gonna have a pretty sad life (and it'll be way longer than you think – just to twist the knife).

By: Sean

Sean — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 02:21:13 +0000

Eric – I'll take a little pollution rather than go back to living in caves. We've never lived longer so I doubt the link between pollution and health is anywhere near as strong as the one between poverty and death.

By: Chad

Chad — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:59:48 +0000

Because everyone in America that is suffering right now, is suffering because they don't “work hard enough” or “don't deserve any help.” Give me a break. Those with incomes of over 250,000 per year should have the obligation of being taxed equally. There is no reason why a millionaire should be taxed less than someone who makes under 50,000. Say what you want about “I worked hard for my money” but I'll bet you anything that you can find millions of people who are struggling who work just as hard if not harder for their 45,000/yr. than their millionaire counterparts.

Oh and as for the right's claims that all democrats want to do is 'tax and spend,” last time I remember, Democrats left this country with a surplus, Bush and his cronies have left us with a record deficit. Give me a balanced budget and higher taxes for the rich any day.
stupid.

By: Texan99

Texan99 — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:18:51 +0000

Eric: I don't react well to being given false pretexts for what people want to force me to do. If there's a real reason hiding under there, out with it, and I'll make up my own mind on each proposed action. No need to snooker me into it “for my own good.”

By: jp

jp — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:31:37 +0000

They can't get the path of a hurricane correct. And people still believe the PREDICTIONS of computers for global warming, that amazes me.

By: steve

steve — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:49:35 +0000

No – the lefts argument is “Since all you rich people use too much we are going to take what you work for and give it away, no matter what the person we giving it to has done to desrve any help.”

When you give half of your salery away then I might use you as an example, until then go away – far, far away.

By: Eric

Eric — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:26:54 +0000

What exactly are the environmentalists trying to get you to do in order to combat global warming, that you shouldn't be doing anyway to live in a healthier, more sustainable way? Nothing. Everything they've asked you to do, you should be doing for a multitude of reasons besides the chance that the global climate may change.

Remember that pollution (not just greenhouse gases) is BAD for you? Affects your lungs? Gets in your water? Affects the brains of developing embryos?

Don't people realize that our drinking water is inundated with prescription drugs and agricultural chemicals?

The point is that we can't (mathematically impossible) continue living the way we're living indefinitely. We are approaching the right-wall of our ability to expand. We HAVE to change. Only a deluded fool would deny that.

So why the level of animosity towards the people trying to spur us into action, trying to prevent catastrophe? We know we have to change, so why NOT start now? Because we're lazy, entitled, spoiled, and completely sheltered from reality. Not because of any conspiracies either way.

So the next time you think about what a whackjob some environmentalist or another is ... take a moment to actually consider what they're asking you to do, and you'll realize that what they're asking you to do may be uncomfortable, but is better for you in the long run WHETHER OR NOT GLOBAL WARMING ITSELF is the danger.

I'm disappointed that the environmentalists have let the entire discussion be reduced to just whether or not human activity will increase the overall temperature of the climate. Temperature isn't the only thing that is killing us. Overpopulation, pollution, and damage to our biological communities will kill us too, and they require the same solutions.