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		<title>By: walmart and economic inequality &#171; orgtheory.net</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/05/20/one-true-price-index/#comment-14790</link>
		<dc:creator>walmart and economic inequality &#171; orgtheory.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 18:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at low-cost retailers like Walmart.  Lane first offers a clean rebuttal, followed by a Wilkinson defensive jab, and then an uppercut from Lane to settle matters.  How did things settle? This from Lane: Even if [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at low-cost retailers like Walmart.  Lane first offers a clean rebuttal, followed by a Wilkinson defensive jab, and then an uppercut from Lane to settle matters.  How did things settle? This from Lane: Even if [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DWAnderson</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/05/20/one-true-price-index/#comment-14789</link>
		<dc:creator>DWAnderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 17:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s step back a bit and look at the forest. All the discussion of inequality as it relates to bundles of goods and movement of people within deciles seems like an attempt to determine whether inequality of utility has increased over time. It seems like the answer is manifestly: NO. In fact, quite the opposite. Gains in utility for those with the least have been far greater than gains for those with the most. I would think redistributionists would be hard pressed to deny this as this is one of the underlying rationales for advocating redsitribution. All the analysis from the subject paper does here is back up this extremely plausible statement. Given this insight, those that are concerned about inequality should probably focus less on inequality of income and more on what makes the least well off better off. Hence the excellent title of the original post &quot;Capitalism to Egalitarians: You’re Welcome!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s step back a bit and look at the forest. All the discussion of inequality as it relates to bundles of goods and movement of people within deciles seems like an attempt to determine whether inequality of utility has increased over time. It seems like the answer is manifestly: NO. In fact, quite the opposite. Gains in utility for those with the least have been far greater than gains for those with the most. I would think redistributionists would be hard pressed to deny this as this is one of the underlying rationales for advocating redsitribution. All the analysis from the subject paper does here is back up this extremely plausible statement. Given this insight, those that are concerned about inequality should probably focus less on inequality of income and more on what makes the least well off better off. Hence the excellent title of the original post &#8220;Capitalism to Egalitarians: You’re Welcome!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DWAnderson</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/05/20/one-true-price-index/#comment-14798</link>
		<dc:creator>DWAnderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 17:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s step back a bit and look at the forest. All the discussion of inequality as it relates to bundles of goods and movement of people within deciles seems like an attempt to determine whether inequality of utility has increased over time. It seems like the answer is manifestly: NO. In fact, quite the opposite. Gains in utility for those with the least have been far greater than gains for those with the most. I would think redistributionists would be hard pressed to deny this as this is one of the underlying rationales for advocating redsitribution. All the analysis from the subject paper does here is back up this extremely plausible statement. Given this insight, those that are concerned about inequality should probably focus less on inequality of income and more on what makes the least well off better off. Hence the excellent title of the original post &quot;Capitalism to Egalitarians: You’re Welcome!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s step back a bit and look at the forest. All the discussion of inequality as it relates to bundles of goods and movement of people within deciles seems like an attempt to determine whether inequality of utility has increased over time. It seems like the answer is manifestly: NO. In fact, quite the opposite. Gains in utility for those with the least have been far greater than gains for those with the most. I would think redistributionists would be hard pressed to deny this as this is one of the underlying rationales for advocating redsitribution. All the analysis from the subject paper does here is back up this extremely plausible statement. Given this insight, those that are concerned about inequality should probably focus less on inequality of income and more on what makes the least well off better off. Hence the excellent title of the original post &#8220;Capitalism to Egalitarians: You’re Welcome!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: More on Inequality and Prices &#171; Consider the Evidence</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/05/20/one-true-price-index/#comment-14788</link>
		<dc:creator>More on Inequality and Prices &#171; Consider the Evidence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on Inequality and&#160;Prices May 21, 2008   Will Wilkinson defends the notion of separate price indexes for the poor and the rich. I don&#8217;t have a problem with [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Luis Enrique</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/05/20/one-true-price-index/#comment-14787</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Enrique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 15:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mk

Nicely put. In my parable the rich can now buy much more gruel than they could before (even though they choose not to) and the poor can buy less beef wellington (even though they choose not to) so , while own-consumption adjusted incomes may not have diverged, this still amounts to an increase in inequality. As you have it, changes in feasible consumption sets may be the kind of &#039;inequality that matters&#039;.</description>
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<p>Nicely put. In my parable the rich can now buy much more gruel than they could before (even though they choose not to) and the poor can buy less beef wellington (even though they choose not to) so , while own-consumption adjusted incomes may not have diverged, this still amounts to an increase in inequality. As you have it, changes in feasible consumption sets may be the kind of &#8216;inequality that matters&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis Enrique</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/05/20/one-true-price-index/#comment-14797</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Enrique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 15:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mk

Nicely put. In my parable the rich can now buy much more gruel than they could before (even though they choose not to) and the poor can buy less beef wellington (even though they choose not to) so , while own-consumption adjusted incomes may not have diverged, this still amounts to an increase in inequality. As you have it, changes in feasible consumption sets may be the kind of &#039;inequality that matters&#039;.</description>
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<p>Nicely put. In my parable the rich can now buy much more gruel than they could before (even though they choose not to) and the poor can buy less beef wellington (even though they choose not to) so , while own-consumption adjusted incomes may not have diverged, this still amounts to an increase in inequality. As you have it, changes in feasible consumption sets may be the kind of &#8216;inequality that matters&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: mk</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/05/20/one-true-price-index/#comment-14786</link>
		<dc:creator>mk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 15:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah. I think I better understand Lane&#039;s comment after rereading.


Suppose there are rich people and poor people. Suppose poor people have flat income growth and flat price growth-- no change. Suppose rich people have high income growth and high price growth -- suppose at the exact same rate -- so that their bundle-adjusted income growth is also flat.

So, for rich and poor alike, flat growth in bundle-adjusted incomes. Is inequality growing? Maybe!

The rising cost of rich goods shrinks poor people&#039;s consumption possibility frontier (CPF). This is true even if poor people aren&#039;t buying rich goods!

Since in this example, poor people&#039;s CPF is weakly shrinking, while rich people&#039;s CPF is weakly expanding, poor people are becoming worse off relative to rich people.

Now, OK. If I have a 25K/year job, and the price of yachts goes up, I probably don&#039;t care. But if the price of IPod&#039;s goes up, I might care! You can&#039;t tell me that I &lt;i&gt;didn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; care just because ex post facto, I didn&#039;t buy an IPod! That&#039;s bad reasoning. Maybe I would have bought one if there was less inflation in the price.

We cannot examine the counterfactual world where rich people have flat nominal income growth and flat bundle price inflation.

But I think we have to assume that shrinking someone&#039;s CPF is utility-decreasing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah. I think I better understand Lane&#8217;s comment after rereading.</p>
<p>Suppose there are rich people and poor people. Suppose poor people have flat income growth and flat price growth&#8211; no change. Suppose rich people have high income growth and high price growth &#8212; suppose at the exact same rate &#8212; so that their bundle-adjusted income growth is also flat.</p>
<p>So, for rich and poor alike, flat growth in bundle-adjusted incomes. Is inequality growing? Maybe!</p>
<p>The rising cost of rich goods shrinks poor people&#8217;s consumption possibility frontier (CPF). This is true even if poor people aren&#8217;t buying rich goods!</p>
<p>Since in this example, poor people&#8217;s CPF is weakly shrinking, while rich people&#8217;s CPF is weakly expanding, poor people are becoming worse off relative to rich people.</p>
<p>Now, OK. If I have a 25K/year job, and the price of yachts goes up, I probably don&#8217;t care. But if the price of IPod&#8217;s goes up, I might care! You can&#8217;t tell me that I <i>didn&#8217;t</i> care just because ex post facto, I didn&#8217;t buy an IPod! That&#8217;s bad reasoning. Maybe I would have bought one if there was less inflation in the price.</p>
<p>We cannot examine the counterfactual world where rich people have flat nominal income growth and flat bundle price inflation.</p>
<p>But I think we have to assume that shrinking someone&#8217;s CPF is utility-decreasing.</p>
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		<title>By: mk</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/05/20/one-true-price-index/#comment-14796</link>
		<dc:creator>mk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 15:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah. I think I better understand Lane&#039;s comment after rereading.


Suppose there are rich people and poor people. Suppose poor people have flat income growth and flat price growth-- no change. Suppose rich people have high income growth and high price growth -- suppose at the exact same rate -- so that their bundle-adjusted income growth is also flat.

So, for rich and poor alike, flat growth in bundle-adjusted incomes. Is inequality growing? Maybe!

The rising cost of rich goods shrinks poor people&#039;s consumption possibility frontier (CPF). This is true even if poor people aren&#039;t buying rich goods!

Since in this example, poor people&#039;s CPF is weakly shrinking, while rich people&#039;s CPF is weakly expanding, poor people are becoming worse off relative to rich people.

Now, OK. If I have a 25K/year job, and the price of yachts goes up, I probably don&#039;t care. But if the price of IPod&#039;s goes up, I might care! You can&#039;t tell me that I &lt;i&gt;didn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; care just because ex post facto, I didn&#039;t buy an IPod! That&#039;s bad reasoning. Maybe I would have bought one if there was less inflation in the price.

We cannot examine the counterfactual world where rich people have flat nominal income growth and flat bundle price inflation.

But I think we have to assume that shrinking someone&#039;s CPF is utility-decreasing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah. I think I better understand Lane&#8217;s comment after rereading.</p>
<p>Suppose there are rich people and poor people. Suppose poor people have flat income growth and flat price growth&#8211; no change. Suppose rich people have high income growth and high price growth &#8212; suppose at the exact same rate &#8212; so that their bundle-adjusted income growth is also flat.</p>
<p>So, for rich and poor alike, flat growth in bundle-adjusted incomes. Is inequality growing? Maybe!</p>
<p>The rising cost of rich goods shrinks poor people&#8217;s consumption possibility frontier (CPF). This is true even if poor people aren&#8217;t buying rich goods!</p>
<p>Since in this example, poor people&#8217;s CPF is weakly shrinking, while rich people&#8217;s CPF is weakly expanding, poor people are becoming worse off relative to rich people.</p>
<p>Now, OK. If I have a 25K/year job, and the price of yachts goes up, I probably don&#8217;t care. But if the price of IPod&#8217;s goes up, I might care! You can&#8217;t tell me that I <i>didn&#8217;t</i> care just because ex post facto, I didn&#8217;t buy an IPod! That&#8217;s bad reasoning. Maybe I would have bought one if there was less inflation in the price.</p>
<p>We cannot examine the counterfactual world where rich people have flat nominal income growth and flat bundle price inflation.</p>
<p>But I think we have to assume that shrinking someone&#8217;s CPF is utility-decreasing.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis Enrique</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/05/20/one-true-price-index/#comment-14785</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Enrique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 15:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>duh - I meant &#039;decile&#039; not &#039;declines&#039; in 1st para.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>duh &#8211; I meant &#8216;decile&#8217; not &#8216;declines&#8217; in 1st para.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis Enrique</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/05/20/one-true-price-index/#comment-14795</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Enrique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 15:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>duh - I meant &#039;decile&#039; not &#039;declines&#039; in 1st para.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>duh &#8211; I meant &#8216;decile&#8217; not &#8216;declines&#8217; in 1st para.</p>
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