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		<title>By: masha</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/04/16/maybe-money-does-buy-happiness-after-all/#comment-13894</link>
		<dc:creator>masha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>has anybody ever thought it could be the opposite: happy people work harder, are more positive in life and make more money?</description>
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		<title>By: masha</title>
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		<dc:creator>masha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>has anybody ever thought it could be the opposite: happy people work harder, are more positive in life and make more money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>has anybody ever thought it could be the opposite: happy people work harder, are more positive in life and make more money?</p>
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		<title>By: Club Troppo &#187; Missing Link Daily</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/04/16/maybe-money-does-buy-happiness-after-all/#comment-13892</link>
		<dc:creator>Club Troppo &#187; Missing Link Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] which seems to confoud previous &#8220;happiness research&#8221; findings of a disconnect between money and happiness, while Joshua Gans points to much earlier and more succinct research on the question by Tim and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] which seems to confoud previous &#8220;happiness research&#8221; findings of a disconnect between money and happiness, while Joshua Gans points to much earlier and more succinct research on the question by Tim and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joey Staudt</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/04/16/maybe-money-does-buy-happiness-after-all/#comment-13891</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey Staudt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 17:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a good book or paper summarizing the current literature on happiness?</description>
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		<title>By: Joey Staudt</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/04/16/maybe-money-does-buy-happiness-after-all/#comment-13897</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey Staudt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 17:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a good book or paper summarizing the current literature on happiness?</description>
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		<title>By: Buy To Let on The Finance World For News and Information Around The World On Finance &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Maybe Money Does Buy Happiness After All</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/04/16/maybe-money-does-buy-happiness-after-all/#comment-13890</link>
		<dc:creator>Buy To Let on The Finance World For News and Information Around The World On Finance &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Maybe Money Does Buy Happiness After All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Maybe Money Does Buy Happiness After All So let’s hold that fixed and then try to explain away the significance of within-country correlation by making up ill-supported just-so stories about zero-sum status races. Now that it is increasingly clear that there is a &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Maybe Money Does Buy Happiness After All So let’s hold that fixed and then try to explain away the significance of within-country correlation by making up ill-supported just-so stories about zero-sum status races. Now that it is increasingly clear that there is a &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: conchis</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/04/16/maybe-money-does-buy-happiness-after-all/#comment-13889</link>
		<dc:creator>conchis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon,

The short answer is yes, sort of. Income (earning money) appears to have a distinct effect from wealth (having money), or consumption (spending money/having stuff). But it&#039;s not entirely clear whether this effect is because people get self-esteem from the act of earning or because, to the extent that individuals&#039; current income is a signal of their future income, it provides them with a sense of security about their futures. Probably a little of both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon,</p>
<p>The short answer is yes, sort of. Income (earning money) appears to have a distinct effect from wealth (having money), or consumption (spending money/having stuff). But it&#8217;s not entirely clear whether this effect is because people get self-esteem from the act of earning or because, to the extent that individuals&#8217; current income is a signal of their future income, it provides them with a sense of security about their futures. Probably a little of both.</p>
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		<title>By: conchis</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/04/16/maybe-money-does-buy-happiness-after-all/#comment-13898</link>
		<dc:creator>conchis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon,

The short answer is yes, sort of. Income (earning money) appears to have a distinct effect from wealth (having money), or consumption (spending money/having stuff). But it&#039;s not entirely clear whether this effect is because people get self-esteem from the act of earning or because, to the extent that individuals&#039; current income is a signal of their future income, it provides them with a sense of security about their futures. Probably a little of both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon,</p>
<p>The short answer is yes, sort of. Income (earning money) appears to have a distinct effect from wealth (having money), or consumption (spending money/having stuff). But it&#8217;s not entirely clear whether this effect is because people get self-esteem from the act of earning or because, to the extent that individuals&#8217; current income is a signal of their future income, it provides them with a sense of security about their futures. Probably a little of both.</p>
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		<title>By: conchis</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/04/16/maybe-money-does-buy-happiness-after-all/#comment-13888</link>
		<dc:creator>conchis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Upon seeing a flat trend in average happiness over time as average income rises, you’d think the right thing to do would be to ask what is wrong with THAT measure. A ceiling effect? Scale renorming as expectations rise? But no. The measure that suggests income growth really does us no good, that must be right. So let’s hold that fixed and then try to explain away the significance of the strong within-country correlation by making up ill-supported just-so stories about zero-sum status races.&lt;/i&gt;

Sorry Will, but this is just crap. I&#039;m as glad as anyone else that improved data are now giving us a better picture of what&#039;s going on here, and as frustrated as anyone else that a lot of the holes in the Easterlin result haven&#039;t gotten as much attention as they deserve. But just because the beliefs conducive to your political views are now being vindicated, doesn&#039;t mean it was obvious all along that you were right and they were wrong, or that the theories that were developed to explain the paradox are as silly as you seem to imply.

Comparison effects and adaptation were perfectly legitimate as &lt;i&gt;potential&lt;/i&gt; explanations of the Easterlin result. So, if you&#039;re going to start throwing stones about people ignoring legitimate hypotheses on the basis of political convenience, you might want to step outside that glass house first. In fact, there is still very good individual-level evidence for comparison effects (the evidence for adaptation strikes me as more ambiguous). Just because such effects don&#039;t render money irrelevant to SWB, doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;re not important.

Moreover, to the extent that the &quot;new&quot; results are based simply on better data, they seem to give little credence to your &quot;ceiling effect&quot; or &quot;scale renorming&quot; hypotheses --- which would suggest that your gloating is even less justified. You might have been right, but not for any reason you deserve credit for.

P.S. Apologies for the snarky tone, but it&#039;s no worse than yours in this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Upon seeing a flat trend in average happiness over time as average income rises, you’d think the right thing to do would be to ask what is wrong with THAT measure. A ceiling effect? Scale renorming as expectations rise? But no. The measure that suggests income growth really does us no good, that must be right. So let’s hold that fixed and then try to explain away the significance of the strong within-country correlation by making up ill-supported just-so stories about zero-sum status races.</i></p>
<p>Sorry Will, but this is just crap. I&#8217;m as glad as anyone else that improved data are now giving us a better picture of what&#8217;s going on here, and as frustrated as anyone else that a lot of the holes in the Easterlin result haven&#8217;t gotten as much attention as they deserve. But just because the beliefs conducive to your political views are now being vindicated, doesn&#8217;t mean it was obvious all along that you were right and they were wrong, or that the theories that were developed to explain the paradox are as silly as you seem to imply.</p>
<p>Comparison effects and adaptation were perfectly legitimate as <i>potential</i> explanations of the Easterlin result. So, if you&#8217;re going to start throwing stones about people ignoring legitimate hypotheses on the basis of political convenience, you might want to step outside that glass house first. In fact, there is still very good individual-level evidence for comparison effects (the evidence for adaptation strikes me as more ambiguous). Just because such effects don&#8217;t render money irrelevant to SWB, doesn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;re not important.</p>
<p>Moreover, to the extent that the &#8220;new&#8221; results are based simply on better data, they seem to give little credence to your &#8220;ceiling effect&#8221; or &#8220;scale renorming&#8221; hypotheses &#8212; which would suggest that your gloating is even less justified. You might have been right, but not for any reason you deserve credit for.</p>
<p>P.S. Apologies for the snarky tone, but it&#8217;s no worse than yours in this post.</p>
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		<title>By: conchis</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/04/16/maybe-money-does-buy-happiness-after-all/#comment-13895</link>
		<dc:creator>conchis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Upon seeing a flat trend in average happiness over time as average income rises, you’d think the right thing to do would be to ask what is wrong with THAT measure. A ceiling effect? Scale renorming as expectations rise? But no. The measure that suggests income growth really does us no good, that must be right. So let’s hold that fixed and then try to explain away the significance of the strong within-country correlation by making up ill-supported just-so stories about zero-sum status races.&lt;/i&gt;

Sorry Will, but this is just crap. I&#039;m as glad as anyone else that improved data are now giving us a better picture of what&#039;s going on here, and as frustrated as anyone else that a lot of the holes in the Easterlin result haven&#039;t gotten as much attention as they deserve. But just because the beliefs conducive to your political views are now being vindicated, doesn&#039;t mean it was obvious all along that you were right and they were wrong, or that the theories that were developed to explain the paradox are as silly as you seem to imply.

Comparison effects and adaptation were perfectly legitimate as &lt;i&gt;potential&lt;/i&gt; explanations of the Easterlin result. So, if you&#039;re going to start throwing stones about people ignoring legitimate hypotheses on the basis of political convenience, you might want to step outside that glass house first. In fact, there is still very good individual-level evidence for comparison effects (the evidence for adaptation strikes me as more ambiguous). Just because such effects don&#039;t render money irrelevant to SWB, doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;re not important.

Moreover, to the extent that the &quot;new&quot; results are based simply on better data, they seem to give little credence to your &quot;ceiling effect&quot; or &quot;scale renorming&quot; hypotheses --- which would suggest that your gloating is even less justified. You might have been right, but not for any reason you deserve credit for.

P.S. Apologies for the snarky tone, but it&#039;s no worse than yours in this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Upon seeing a flat trend in average happiness over time as average income rises, you’d think the right thing to do would be to ask what is wrong with THAT measure. A ceiling effect? Scale renorming as expectations rise? But no. The measure that suggests income growth really does us no good, that must be right. So let’s hold that fixed and then try to explain away the significance of the strong within-country correlation by making up ill-supported just-so stories about zero-sum status races.</i></p>
<p>Sorry Will, but this is just crap. I&#8217;m as glad as anyone else that improved data are now giving us a better picture of what&#8217;s going on here, and as frustrated as anyone else that a lot of the holes in the Easterlin result haven&#8217;t gotten as much attention as they deserve. But just because the beliefs conducive to your political views are now being vindicated, doesn&#8217;t mean it was obvious all along that you were right and they were wrong, or that the theories that were developed to explain the paradox are as silly as you seem to imply.</p>
<p>Comparison effects and adaptation were perfectly legitimate as <i>potential</i> explanations of the Easterlin result. So, if you&#8217;re going to start throwing stones about people ignoring legitimate hypotheses on the basis of political convenience, you might want to step outside that glass house first. In fact, there is still very good individual-level evidence for comparison effects (the evidence for adaptation strikes me as more ambiguous). Just because such effects don&#8217;t render money irrelevant to SWB, doesn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;re not important.</p>
<p>Moreover, to the extent that the &#8220;new&#8221; results are based simply on better data, they seem to give little credence to your &#8220;ceiling effect&#8221; or &#8220;scale renorming&#8221; hypotheses &#8212; which would suggest that your gloating is even less justified. You might have been right, but not for any reason you deserve credit for.</p>
<p>P.S. Apologies for the snarky tone, but it&#8217;s no worse than yours in this post.</p>
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