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		<title>By: MaryJ</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/12/03/actual-evidence-about-immigrant-assimilation/#comment-11166</link>
		<dc:creator>MaryJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 02:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I studied Islam and Islamic history for eight years after a close relative of mine converted to that religion and created a lot of unhappiness (to put in mildly) in my family. You are massively, stupidly, insanely wrong. Islam is a POLITICAL SYSTEM which is DESIGNED to be irredentist. Their beliefs instruct them to establish an Islamic state WHEREVER they achieve a majority. Their beliefs SPECIFICALLY forbid the establishment of &quot;man-made&quot; legal systems (that is why they have done so poorly with secular nation-states). Their religion is also heavily tied up in not just gaining souls, as is Christianity, but in gaining actual physical territory. In fact,  gaining converts in Islam runs a very poor second to gaining land mass. That&#039;s why they conquered a huge empire in a very short time -- it wasn&#039;t to &quot;spread the good news&quot; of their religion -- it was to take territory away from &quot;unbelievers&quot; in the name of Allah. Sorry but this posting is moronic and ignorant in the extreme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I studied Islam and Islamic history for eight years after a close relative of mine converted to that religion and created a lot of unhappiness (to put in mildly) in my family. You are massively, stupidly, insanely wrong. Islam is a POLITICAL SYSTEM which is DESIGNED to be irredentist. Their beliefs instruct them to establish an Islamic state WHEREVER they achieve a majority. Their beliefs SPECIFICALLY forbid the establishment of &#8220;man-made&#8221; legal systems (that is why they have done so poorly with secular nation-states). Their religion is also heavily tied up in not just gaining souls, as is Christianity, but in gaining actual physical territory. In fact,  gaining converts in Islam runs a very poor second to gaining land mass. That&#8217;s why they conquered a huge empire in a very short time &#8212; it wasn&#8217;t to &#8220;spread the good news&#8221; of their religion &#8212; it was to take territory away from &#8220;unbelievers&#8221; in the name of Allah. Sorry but this posting is moronic and ignorant in the extreme.</p>
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		<title>By: MaryJ</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/12/03/actual-evidence-about-immigrant-assimilation/#comment-11175</link>
		<dc:creator>MaryJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 02:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I studied Islam and Islamic history for eight years after a close relative of mine converted to that religion and created a lot of unhappiness (to put in mildly) in my family. You are massively, stupidly, insanely wrong. Islam is a POLITICAL SYSTEM which is DESIGNED to be irredentist. Their beliefs instruct them to establish an Islamic state WHEREVER they achieve a majority. Their beliefs SPECIFICALLY forbid the establishment of &quot;man-made&quot; legal systems (that is why they have done so poorly with secular nation-states). Their religion is also heavily tied up in not just gaining souls, as is Christianity, but in gaining actual physical territory. In fact,  gaining converts in Islam runs a very poor second to gaining land mass. That&#039;s why they conquered a huge empire in a very short time -- it wasn&#039;t to &quot;spread the good news&quot; of their religion -- it was to take territory away from &quot;unbelievers&quot; in the name of Allah. Sorry but this posting is moronic and ignorant in the extreme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I studied Islam and Islamic history for eight years after a close relative of mine converted to that religion and created a lot of unhappiness (to put in mildly) in my family. You are massively, stupidly, insanely wrong. Islam is a POLITICAL SYSTEM which is DESIGNED to be irredentist. Their beliefs instruct them to establish an Islamic state WHEREVER they achieve a majority. Their beliefs SPECIFICALLY forbid the establishment of &#8220;man-made&#8221; legal systems (that is why they have done so poorly with secular nation-states). Their religion is also heavily tied up in not just gaining souls, as is Christianity, but in gaining actual physical territory. In fact,  gaining converts in Islam runs a very poor second to gaining land mass. That&#8217;s why they conquered a huge empire in a very short time &#8212; it wasn&#8217;t to &#8220;spread the good news&#8221; of their religion &#8212; it was to take territory away from &#8220;unbelievers&#8221; in the name of Allah. Sorry but this posting is moronic and ignorant in the extreme.</p>
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		<title>By: Perry de Havilland</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/12/03/actual-evidence-about-immigrant-assimilation/#comment-11165</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry de Havilland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, that should be &quot;I am close to being convinced that in the case of *certain* Muslim cultures that perhaps they are the exception to the rule.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, that should be &#8220;I am close to being convinced that in the case of *certain* Muslim cultures that perhaps they are the exception to the rule.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Perry de Havilland</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/12/03/actual-evidence-about-immigrant-assimilation/#comment-11171</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry de Havilland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, that should be &quot;I am close to being convinced that in the case of *certain* Muslim cultures that perhaps they are the exception to the rule.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, that should be &#8220;I am close to being convinced that in the case of *certain* Muslim cultures that perhaps they are the exception to the rule.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Perry de Havilland</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/12/03/actual-evidence-about-immigrant-assimilation/#comment-11164</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry de Havilland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always been an open borders pro-assimilationist (and I more or less still am) but I am not convinced that in the case of *certain* Muslim cultures that perhaps they are the exception to the rule.  Just saying you &#039;feel&#039; British to some academic is essentially meaningless if what that means is not what it means for the host society.  Poll after poll (not to mention my own discussions with UK Muslims) show a HUGE gap in accepted axioms when you really get down to it.  Blaming the undeniable increasingly hostility of non-Muslims in the UK for Muslim alienation only makes sense if that hostility has no rational basis but in truth every time some Muslim &#039;community spokesman&#039; opens his yap, he just confirms that the unflattering stereotypes bandied about in the press are very much grounded in reality.  The real driver of hostility to local Muslims is not the odious Daily Mail but things that are constantly being said by Muslim activists who are usually describes as &quot;moderates&quot;.  In truth so-called islamophobia is very much &#039;event driven&#039; and pretending we do not have a problem ain&#039;t going to make it go away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always been an open borders pro-assimilationist (and I more or less still am) but I am not convinced that in the case of *certain* Muslim cultures that perhaps they are the exception to the rule.  Just saying you &#8216;feel&#8217; British to some academic is essentially meaningless if what that means is not what it means for the host society.  Poll after poll (not to mention my own discussions with UK Muslims) show a HUGE gap in accepted axioms when you really get down to it.  Blaming the undeniable increasingly hostility of non-Muslims in the UK for Muslim alienation only makes sense if that hostility has no rational basis but in truth every time some Muslim &#8216;community spokesman&#8217; opens his yap, he just confirms that the unflattering stereotypes bandied about in the press are very much grounded in reality.  The real driver of hostility to local Muslims is not the odious Daily Mail but things that are constantly being said by Muslim activists who are usually describes as &#8220;moderates&#8221;.  In truth so-called islamophobia is very much &#8216;event driven&#8217; and pretending we do not have a problem ain&#8217;t going to make it go away.</p>
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		<title>By: Perry de Havilland</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/12/03/actual-evidence-about-immigrant-assimilation/#comment-11169</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry de Havilland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always been an open borders pro-assimilationist (and I more or less still am) but I am not convinced that in the case of *certain* Muslim cultures that perhaps they are the exception to the rule.  Just saying you &#039;feel&#039; British to some academic is essentially meaningless if what that means is not what it means for the host society.  Poll after poll (not to mention my own discussions with UK Muslims) show a HUGE gap in accepted axioms when you really get down to it.  Blaming the undeniable increasingly hostility of non-Muslims in the UK for Muslim alienation only makes sense if that hostility has no rational basis but in truth every time some Muslim &#039;community spokesman&#039; opens his yap, he just confirms that the unflattering stereotypes bandied about in the press are very much grounded in reality.  The real driver of hostility to local Muslims is not the odious Daily Mail but things that are constantly being said by Muslim activists who are usually describes as &quot;moderates&quot;.  In truth so-called islamophobia is very much &#039;event driven&#039; and pretending we do not have a problem ain&#039;t going to make it go away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always been an open borders pro-assimilationist (and I more or less still am) but I am not convinced that in the case of *certain* Muslim cultures that perhaps they are the exception to the rule.  Just saying you &#8216;feel&#8217; British to some academic is essentially meaningless if what that means is not what it means for the host society.  Poll after poll (not to mention my own discussions with UK Muslims) show a HUGE gap in accepted axioms when you really get down to it.  Blaming the undeniable increasingly hostility of non-Muslims in the UK for Muslim alienation only makes sense if that hostility has no rational basis but in truth every time some Muslim &#8216;community spokesman&#8217; opens his yap, he just confirms that the unflattering stereotypes bandied about in the press are very much grounded in reality.  The real driver of hostility to local Muslims is not the odious Daily Mail but things that are constantly being said by Muslim activists who are usually describes as &#8220;moderates&#8221;.  In truth so-called islamophobia is very much &#8216;event driven&#8217; and pretending we do not have a problem ain&#8217;t going to make it go away.</p>
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		<title>By: stuart</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/12/03/actual-evidence-about-immigrant-assimilation/#comment-11163</link>
		<dc:creator>stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a climate change skeptic, but neither do I think that capitalism is the greatest threat to humanity, yet that&#039;s what people complain about (in South Africa).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a climate change skeptic, but neither do I think that capitalism is the greatest threat to humanity, yet that&#8217;s what people complain about (in South Africa).</p>
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		<title>By: stuart</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/12/03/actual-evidence-about-immigrant-assimilation/#comment-11174</link>
		<dc:creator>stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a climate change skeptic, but neither do I think that capitalism is the greatest threat to humanity, yet that&#039;s what people complain about (in South Africa).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a climate change skeptic, but neither do I think that capitalism is the greatest threat to humanity, yet that&#8217;s what people complain about (in South Africa).</p>
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		<title>By: TGGP</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/12/03/actual-evidence-about-immigrant-assimilation/#comment-11162</link>
		<dc:creator>TGGP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your contribution, bjk.

I don&#039;t feel like copying over the links I posted on the subject &lt;a href=&quot;http://whoisioz.blogspot.com/2007/11/glad-game.html#c5489107233647733390&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, but they seemed relevant enough so if you&#039;re interested just click.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your contribution, bjk.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t feel like copying over the links I posted on the subject <a href="http://whoisioz.blogspot.com/2007/11/glad-game.html#c5489107233647733390" rel="nofollow">here</a>, but they seemed relevant enough so if you&#8217;re interested just click.</p>
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		<title>By: TGGP</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/12/03/actual-evidence-about-immigrant-assimilation/#comment-11173</link>
		<dc:creator>TGGP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your contribution, bjk.

I don&#039;t feel like copying over the links I posted on the subject &lt;a href=&quot;http://whoisioz.blogspot.com/2007/11/glad-game.html#c5489107233647733390&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, but they seemed relevant enough so if you&#039;re interested just click.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your contribution, bjk.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t feel like copying over the links I posted on the subject <a href="http://whoisioz.blogspot.com/2007/11/glad-game.html#c5489107233647733390" rel="nofollow">here</a>, but they seemed relevant enough so if you&#8217;re interested just click.</p>
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