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	<title>Comments on: Douthat&#039;s Populist Nationalism</title>
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	<description>The Sweet Release of Reason</description>
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		<title>By: Will Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/06/18/douthats-populist-nationalism/#comment-10079</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ferris, Excellent! I think this is probably about as good as it gets. But I&#039;m not sure this is an argument against the liberal baseline so much as a charge to be realistically prudent when attempting to take it seriously. The fact that we care more about people we see on TV than people we don&#039;t obviously doesn&#039;t embody a GOOD reason, but it is a constraint. And it is of course possible culturally to widen the circle of concern, so we should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ferris, Excellent! I think this is probably about as good as it gets. But I&#8217;m not sure this is an argument against the liberal baseline so much as a charge to be realistically prudent when attempting to take it seriously. The fact that we care more about people we see on TV than people we don&#8217;t obviously doesn&#8217;t embody a GOOD reason, but it is a constraint. And it is of course possible culturally to widen the circle of concern, so we should.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/06/18/douthats-populist-nationalism/#comment-10107</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ferris, Excellent! I think this is probably about as good as it gets. But I&#039;m not sure this is an argument against the liberal baseline so much as a charge to be realistically prudent when attempting to take it seriously. The fact that we care more about people we see on TV than people we don&#039;t obviously doesn&#039;t embody a GOOD reason, but it is a constraint. And it is of course possible culturally to widen the circle of concern, so we should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ferris, Excellent! I think this is probably about as good as it gets. But I&#8217;m not sure this is an argument against the liberal baseline so much as a charge to be realistically prudent when attempting to take it seriously. The fact that we care more about people we see on TV than people we don&#8217;t obviously doesn&#8217;t embody a GOOD reason, but it is a constraint. And it is of course possible culturally to widen the circle of concern, so we should.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferris Bueller</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/06/18/douthats-populist-nationalism/#comment-10078</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferris Bueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will Wilkinson asked: &quot;Arguments against the liberal baseline? Anyone? Anyone?&quot;

Edmund Burke might say that we simply are not built that way--we are not rootless cosmopolitans, and attempts to build societies on rootless-cosmopolitan principles will go badly wrong in horrible ways. We care first about ourselves, second about our descendants, third about our families, fourth about our neighbors, fifth about people we see on TV who we can easily identify with, sixth about people who speak our own language, seventh about people from countries we have visited or see often on TV in ways that make us identify with them, and eighth about everybody else.

Thus even if we want (for some reason) to achieve rootless cosmopolitan ends, the means we must use are to encourage the growth and development of societies that reflect this hierarchy of moral concern, because societies that don&#039;t will not long survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Wilkinson asked: &#8220;Arguments against the liberal baseline? Anyone? Anyone?&#8221;</p>
<p>Edmund Burke might say that we simply are not built that way&#8211;we are not rootless cosmopolitans, and attempts to build societies on rootless-cosmopolitan principles will go badly wrong in horrible ways. We care first about ourselves, second about our descendants, third about our families, fourth about our neighbors, fifth about people we see on TV who we can easily identify with, sixth about people who speak our own language, seventh about people from countries we have visited or see often on TV in ways that make us identify with them, and eighth about everybody else.</p>
<p>Thus even if we want (for some reason) to achieve rootless cosmopolitan ends, the means we must use are to encourage the growth and development of societies that reflect this hierarchy of moral concern, because societies that don&#8217;t will not long survive.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferris Bueller</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/06/18/douthats-populist-nationalism/#comment-10102</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferris Bueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will Wilkinson asked: &quot;Arguments against the liberal baseline? Anyone? Anyone?&quot;

Edmund Burke might say that we simply are not built that way--we are not rootless cosmopolitans, and attempts to build societies on rootless-cosmopolitan principles will go badly wrong in horrible ways. We care first about ourselves, second about our descendants, third about our families, fourth about our neighbors, fifth about people we see on TV who we can easily identify with, sixth about people who speak our own language, seventh about people from countries we have visited or see often on TV in ways that make us identify with them, and eighth about everybody else.

Thus even if we want (for some reason) to achieve rootless cosmopolitan ends, the means we must use are to encourage the growth and development of societies that reflect this hierarchy of moral concern, because societies that don&#039;t will not long survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Wilkinson asked: &#8220;Arguments against the liberal baseline? Anyone? Anyone?&#8221;</p>
<p>Edmund Burke might say that we simply are not built that way&#8211;we are not rootless cosmopolitans, and attempts to build societies on rootless-cosmopolitan principles will go badly wrong in horrible ways. We care first about ourselves, second about our descendants, third about our families, fourth about our neighbors, fifth about people we see on TV who we can easily identify with, sixth about people who speak our own language, seventh about people from countries we have visited or see often on TV in ways that make us identify with them, and eighth about everybody else.</p>
<p>Thus even if we want (for some reason) to achieve rootless cosmopolitan ends, the means we must use are to encourage the growth and development of societies that reflect this hierarchy of moral concern, because societies that don&#8217;t will not long survive.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt McIntosh</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/06/18/douthats-populist-nationalism/#comment-10077</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt McIntosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 20:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also wasn&#039;t talking specifically about SSA, and neither was anyone else. The overall *worldwide* trend is toward convergence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also wasn&#8217;t talking specifically about SSA, and neither was anyone else. The overall *worldwide* trend is toward convergence.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt McIntosh</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/06/18/douthats-populist-nationalism/#comment-10091</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt McIntosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 20:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also wasn&#039;t talking specifically about SSA, and neither was anyone else. The overall *worldwide* trend is toward convergence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also wasn&#8217;t talking specifically about SSA, and neither was anyone else. The overall *worldwide* trend is toward convergence.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt McIntosh</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/06/18/douthats-populist-nationalism/#comment-10076</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt McIntosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 20:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TGGP, apparently you&#039;re using &quot;converge&quot; in a stricter sense than me: I&#039;m talking about convergence of living standards, not necessarily something like per capita GDP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TGGP, apparently you&#8217;re using &#8220;converge&#8221; in a stricter sense than me: I&#8217;m talking about convergence of living standards, not necessarily something like per capita GDP.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt McIntosh</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/06/18/douthats-populist-nationalism/#comment-10090</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt McIntosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 20:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TGGP, apparently you&#039;re using &quot;converge&quot; in a stricter sense than me: I&#039;m talking about convergence of living standards, not necessarily something like per capita GDP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TGGP, apparently you&#8217;re using &#8220;converge&#8221; in a stricter sense than me: I&#8217;m talking about convergence of living standards, not necessarily something like per capita GDP.</p>
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		<title>By: TGGP</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/06/18/douthats-populist-nationalism/#comment-10075</link>
		<dc:creator>TGGP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt McIntosh, do you really think that, say, sub-Saharan Africa is going to &quot;converge&quot; developmentally within our lifetimes (assuming the Singularity doesn&#039;t let us live forever)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt McIntosh, do you really think that, say, sub-Saharan Africa is going to &#8220;converge&#8221; developmentally within our lifetimes (assuming the Singularity doesn&#8217;t let us live forever)?</p>
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		<title>By: TGGP</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/06/18/douthats-populist-nationalism/#comment-10089</link>
		<dc:creator>TGGP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt McIntosh, do you really think that, say, sub-Saharan Africa is going to &quot;converge&quot; developmentally within our lifetimes (assuming the Singularity doesn&#039;t let us live forever)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt McIntosh, do you really think that, say, sub-Saharan Africa is going to &#8220;converge&#8221; developmentally within our lifetimes (assuming the Singularity doesn&#8217;t let us live forever)?</p>
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