Comments on: IQ, Clusters, and Francisco Gil-White http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/03/01/iq-clusters-and-francisco-gil-white/ The Sweet Release of Reason Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:11:50 +0000 hourly 1 By: Steve Sailer http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/03/01/iq-clusters-and-francisco-gil-white/#comment-9562 Steve Sailer Thu, 31 May 2007 08:48:07 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/03/01/iq-clusters-and-francisco-gil-white/#comment-9562 Will, You really need to study up more on IQ ... especially from more level-headed sources than the conspiracy theorist Francisco Gil-White. IQ is a very important topic that sheds light on all the subjects you are interested in. You should be reading experts like Jensen and Flynn, not crackpots like Gil-White. Steve Will,

You really need to study up more on IQ … especially from more level-headed sources than the conspiracy theorist Francisco Gil-White. IQ is a very important topic that sheds light on all the subjects you are interested in. You should be reading experts like Jensen and Flynn, not crackpots like Gil-White.

Steve

]]> By: Steve Sailer http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/03/01/iq-clusters-and-francisco-gil-white/#comment-9579 Steve Sailer Thu, 31 May 2007 08:48:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/03/01/iq-clusters-and-francisco-gil-white/#comment-9579 Will, You really need to study up more on IQ ... especially from more level-headed sources than the conspiracy theorist Francisco Gil-White. IQ is a very important topic that sheds light on all the subjects you are interested in. You should be reading experts like Jensen and Flynn, not crackpots like Gil-White. Steve Will,

You really need to study up more on IQ … especially from more level-headed sources than the conspiracy theorist Francisco Gil-White. IQ is a very important topic that sheds light on all the subjects you are interested in. You should be reading experts like Jensen and Flynn, not crackpots like Gil-White.

Steve

]]> By: Jo Esteranto http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/03/01/iq-clusters-and-francisco-gil-white/#comment-9561 Jo Esteranto Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:34:30 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/03/01/iq-clusters-and-francisco-gil-white/#comment-9561 <i>(There’s good reason to think the Minnisota Twins studies have more than a bit of book-cooking in them too. At the very least they seriously mis-describe the cases.)</i> No there isn't, and no they don't. (There’s good reason to think the Minnisota Twins studies have more than a bit of book-cooking in them too. At the very least they seriously mis-describe the cases.)

No there isn’t, and no they don’t.

]]> By: Jo Esteranto http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/03/01/iq-clusters-and-francisco-gil-white/#comment-9577 Jo Esteranto Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:34:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/03/01/iq-clusters-and-francisco-gil-white/#comment-9577 <i>(There’s good reason to think the Minnisota Twins studies have more than a bit of book-cooking in them too. At the very least they seriously mis-describe the cases.)</i> No there isn't, and no they don't. (There’s good reason to think the Minnisota Twins studies have more than a bit of book-cooking in them too. At the very least they seriously mis-describe the cases.)

No there isn’t, and no they don’t.

]]> By: Matt http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/03/01/iq-clusters-and-francisco-gil-white/#comment-9560 Matt Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:23:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/03/01/iq-clusters-and-francisco-gil-white/#comment-9560 You could have learned those things about IQ tests from reading Gould's _The Mismeasure of Man_ many years ago. (There's good reason to think the Minnisota Twins studies have more than a bit of book-cooking in them too. At the very least they seriously mis-describe the cases.) Gil-White is a funny guy, and by funny I mean crazy, as in serious conspiracy theory, the jews are out to get me type crazy. I think this was the sourse of his tenure problems at Penn, a place where it's very hard to get tenure anyway. (One grant of tenure in 10+ years in the philosophy dept., for example.) He's crazy, but right in this case. You could have learned those things about IQ tests from reading Gould’s _The Mismeasure of Man_ many years ago. (There’s good reason to think the Minnisota Twins studies have more than a bit of book-cooking in them too. At the very least they seriously mis-describe the cases.) Gil-White is a funny guy, and by funny I mean crazy, as in serious conspiracy theory, the jews are out to get me type crazy. I think this was the sourse of his tenure problems at Penn, a place where it’s very hard to get tenure anyway. (One grant of tenure in 10+ years in the philosophy dept., for example.) He’s crazy, but right in this case.

]]> By: Matt http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/03/01/iq-clusters-and-francisco-gil-white/#comment-9578 Matt Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:23:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/03/01/iq-clusters-and-francisco-gil-white/#comment-9578 You could have learned those things about IQ tests from reading Gould's _The Mismeasure of Man_ many years ago. (There's good reason to think the Minnisota Twins studies have more than a bit of book-cooking in them too. At the very least they seriously mis-describe the cases.) Gil-White is a funny guy, and by funny I mean crazy, as in serious conspiracy theory, the jews are out to get me type crazy. I think this was the sourse of his tenure problems at Penn, a place where it's very hard to get tenure anyway. (One grant of tenure in 10+ years in the philosophy dept., for example.) He's crazy, but right in this case. You could have learned those things about IQ tests from reading Gould’s _The Mismeasure of Man_ many years ago. (There’s good reason to think the Minnisota Twins studies have more than a bit of book-cooking in them too. At the very least they seriously mis-describe the cases.) Gil-White is a funny guy, and by funny I mean crazy, as in serious conspiracy theory, the jews are out to get me type crazy. I think this was the sourse of his tenure problems at Penn, a place where it’s very hard to get tenure anyway. (One grant of tenure in 10+ years in the philosophy dept., for example.) He’s crazy, but right in this case.

]]> By: Ian Random http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/03/01/iq-clusters-and-francisco-gil-white/#comment-9559 Ian Random Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:51:39 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/03/01/iq-clusters-and-francisco-gil-white/#comment-9559 I fail to see the controversy. You can take any test, get a bunch of people to take it. Hopefully, it will generate a nice bell curve. Then you can say how far you deviate from the average. It could be controversial, if you think it measures more than someone's ability to take a test and do good on it. I remember in college totally freezing up on a quiz and forgetting everything. Now if that were an IQ test, I'd be thrown in remedial education. Or if I was wealthy I'd attend a private college that allows one to have oral exams in addition to written ones and passed. I fail to see the controversy. You can take any test, get a bunch of people to take it. Hopefully, it will generate a nice bell curve. Then you can say how far you deviate from the average. It could be controversial, if you think it measures more than someone’s ability to take a test and do good on it. I remember in college totally freezing up on a quiz and forgetting everything. Now if that were an IQ test, I’d be thrown in remedial education. Or if I was wealthy I’d attend a private college that allows one to have oral exams in addition to written ones and passed.

]]> By: Ian Random http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/03/01/iq-clusters-and-francisco-gil-white/#comment-9563 Ian Random Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:51:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/03/01/iq-clusters-and-francisco-gil-white/#comment-9563 I fail to see the controversy. You can take any test, get a bunch of people to take it. Hopefully, it will generate a nice bell curve. Then you can say how far you deviate from the average. It could be controversial, if you think it measures more than someone's ability to take a test and do good on it. I remember in college totally freezing up on a quiz and forgetting everything. Now if that were an IQ test, I'd be thrown in remedial education. Or if I was wealthy I'd attend a private college that allows one to have oral exams in addition to written ones and passed. I fail to see the controversy. You can take any test, get a bunch of people to take it. Hopefully, it will generate a nice bell curve. Then you can say how far you deviate from the average. It could be controversial, if you think it measures more than someone’s ability to take a test and do good on it. I remember in college totally freezing up on a quiz and forgetting everything. Now if that were an IQ test, I’d be thrown in remedial education. Or if I was wealthy I’d attend a private college that allows one to have oral exams in addition to written ones and passed.

]]> By: Muriakida http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/03/01/iq-clusters-and-francisco-gil-white/#comment-9558 Muriakida Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:42:05 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/03/01/iq-clusters-and-francisco-gil-white/#comment-9558 "Philosophy mostly just coasts along on these efflorescence’s of genius. What’s going on? Why aren’t we having having one of these NOW, in the US?" They're all studying neuroscience. Did you get the memo? I really enjoy that word, efflorescence, but I don't know if it's a good way to visualize some of the history's most successful ideas, for example Islam, Freudianism and Marxism (all of which have pretty winning but dubious track records at the start of the 20th century and are by no means squeezed today). I'm only dropping these particular Ideas because, like neuroscience, they're good at answering questions and they address man's misery. Neuroscience will do that. And prove that we're smarter than other people. And help us build robots that use guns responsibly. “Philosophy mostly just coasts along on these efflorescence’s of genius. What’s going on? Why aren’t we having having one of these NOW, in the US?”

They’re all studying neuroscience. Did you get the memo?

I really enjoy that word, efflorescence, but I don’t know if it’s a good way to visualize some of the history’s most successful ideas, for example Islam, Freudianism and Marxism (all of which have pretty winning but dubious track records at the start of the 20th century and are by no means squeezed today).

I’m only dropping these particular Ideas because, like neuroscience, they’re good at answering questions and they address man’s misery. Neuroscience will do that. And prove that we’re smarter than other people. And help us build robots that use guns responsibly.

]]> By: Muriakida http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/03/01/iq-clusters-and-francisco-gil-white/#comment-9576 Muriakida Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:42:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2007/03/01/iq-clusters-and-francisco-gil-white/#comment-9576 "Philosophy mostly just coasts along on these efflorescence’s of genius. What’s going on? Why aren’t we having having one of these NOW, in the US?" They're all studying neuroscience. Did you get the memo? I really enjoy that word, efflorescence, but I don't know if it's a good way to visualize some of the history's most successful ideas, for example Islam, Freudianism and Marxism (all of which have pretty winning but dubious track records at the start of the 20th century and are by no means squeezed today). I'm only dropping these particular Ideas because, like neuroscience, they're good at answering questions and they address man's misery. Neuroscience will do that. And prove that we're smarter than other people. And help us build robots that use guns responsibly. “Philosophy mostly just coasts along on these efflorescence’s of genius. What’s going on? Why aren’t we having having one of these NOW, in the US?”

They’re all studying neuroscience. Did you get the memo?

I really enjoy that word, efflorescence, but I don’t know if it’s a good way to visualize some of the history’s most successful ideas, for example Islam, Freudianism and Marxism (all of which have pretty winning but dubious track records at the start of the 20th century and are by no means squeezed today).

I’m only dropping these particular Ideas because, like neuroscience, they’re good at answering questions and they address man’s misery. Neuroscience will do that. And prove that we’re smarter than other people. And help us build robots that use guns responsibly.

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