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	<description>The Sweet Release of Reason</description>
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		<title>By: Ralph P Dickerson</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/09/24/moral-minds-2/#comment-9091</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph P Dickerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your blog is great!</description>
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		<title>By: Nakia J Bryden</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/09/24/moral-minds-2/#comment-9090</link>
		<dc:creator>Nakia J Bryden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 03:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great article!, grats for u site :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great article!, grats for u site <img src='http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mike Farmer</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/09/24/moral-minds-2/#comment-9089</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Farmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 13:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if the intuition model is correct, reason is the primary tool to interpret all value-judgements, regardless whether the value-judements are learned or innate -- emotions are lightning-quick responses to ingrained value-judgements but only reason can slow the process and re-evaluate in order to act appropriately to the response given the context or real-life situations in which action is required. Reason is far more than a rationalization of an initial intuition -- it&#039;s the faculty that&#039;s constantly giving meaning and moral understanding. Reason doesn&#039;t shut off emotions in order to act with pure rationality, if used properly, it enriches emotions to enable a person to act morally based on the information accessible at the time. Weakening the role of reason makes it more likely our shared intutions will be guided by the most influential political party according to its ideas of correct moral action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if the intuition model is correct, reason is the primary tool to interpret all value-judgements, regardless whether the value-judements are learned or innate &#8212; emotions are lightning-quick responses to ingrained value-judgements but only reason can slow the process and re-evaluate in order to act appropriately to the response given the context or real-life situations in which action is required. Reason is far more than a rationalization of an initial intuition &#8212; it&#39;s the faculty that&#39;s constantly giving meaning and moral understanding. Reason doesn&#39;t shut off emotions in order to act with pure rationality, if used properly, it enriches emotions to enable a person to act morally based on the information accessible at the time. Weakening the role of reason makes it more likely our shared intutions will be guided by the most influential political party according to its ideas of correct moral action.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Callahan</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/09/24/moral-minds-2/#comment-9088</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene Callahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But I think it’s a place to start when trying to think through the bindingness of morality in a non-spooky natural world.&quot;

Analytical philosophy in a nutshell:
1) Deny the primacy of consciousness in the world; and
2) Now notice how &lt;em&gt;hard&lt;/em&gt; it is to explain everything, and exert great efforts to come up with ingenious way to avoid admitting 1) was an error.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But I think it’s a place to start when trying to think through the bindingness of morality in a non-spooky natural world.&#8221;</p>
<p>Analytical philosophy in a nutshell:<br />
1) Deny the primacy of consciousness in the world; and<br />
2) Now notice how <em>hard</em> it is to explain everything, and exert great efforts to come up with ingenious way to avoid admitting 1) was an error.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Callahan</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/09/24/moral-minds-2/#comment-9102</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene Callahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But I think it’s a place to start when trying to think through the bindingness of morality in a non-spooky natural world.&quot;

Analytical philosophy in a nutshell:
1) Deny the primacy of consciousness in the world; and
2) Now notice how &lt;em&gt;hard&lt;/em&gt; it is to explain everything, and exert great efforts to come up with ingenious way to avoid admitting 1) was an error.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But I think it’s a place to start when trying to think through the bindingness of morality in a non-spooky natural world.&#8221;</p>
<p>Analytical philosophy in a nutshell:<br />
1) Deny the primacy of consciousness in the world; and<br />
2) Now notice how <em>hard</em> it is to explain everything, and exert great efforts to come up with ingenious way to avoid admitting 1) was an error.</p>
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		<title>By: Luka</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/09/24/moral-minds-2/#comment-9087</link>
		<dc:creator>Luka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will, That&#039;s an interesting position. I hadn&#039;t quite thought of it as a possibility, I don&#039;t think. I find the problem of the bindingness of morality to be fascinating, though. I tend to be sympathetic to the Mackie-style error theory: all moral judgments are false because there are no moral facts. - Anyway, good post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will, That&#8217;s an interesting position. I hadn&#8217;t quite thought of it as a possibility, I don&#8217;t think. I find the problem of the bindingness of morality to be fascinating, though. I tend to be sympathetic to the Mackie-style error theory: all moral judgments are false because there are no moral facts. &#8211; Anyway, good post.</p>
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		<title>By: Luka</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/09/24/moral-minds-2/#comment-9101</link>
		<dc:creator>Luka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will, That&#039;s an interesting position. I hadn&#039;t quite thought of it as a possibility, I don&#039;t think. I find the problem of the bindingness of morality to be fascinating, though. I tend to be sympathetic to the Mackie-style error theory: all moral judgments are false because there are no moral facts. - Anyway, good post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will, That&#8217;s an interesting position. I hadn&#8217;t quite thought of it as a possibility, I don&#8217;t think. I find the problem of the bindingness of morality to be fascinating, though. I tend to be sympathetic to the Mackie-style error theory: all moral judgments are false because there are no moral facts. &#8211; Anyway, good post.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Lilly</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/09/24/moral-minds-2/#comment-9086</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And another thing!

You quote Rorty as claiming that the grammaticality of a sentence is rarely a matter of doubt, while moral dilemmas leave us uncertain.  But he may not be comparing equivalent sets.

There are huge numbers of sentences whose grammaticality is in doubt.  A frequently-studied instance is the so-called &quot;parasitic gap&quot;, such as &quot;Which paper did you read before you filed?&quot;  &quot;What kind of person do you like whenever you meet?&quot; and similar.  Some people hate them, some people see nothing wrong with them, others are left in some kind of post-koan Zen state.  These grammaticality judgements may be analogous to difficult moral quandaries.

On the other hand, depending on how you define &quot;moral dilemma&quot;, there may be huge numbers of them that are easy to decide and hence are not usually counted as dilemmas.  For example, should I smack my mother for no reason?  The answer is obvious to anyone, as obvious as the grammaticality of &quot;The dog is happy&quot;.  These easy moral issues, which we solve quickly and unconsciously every day, may be analogous to standard grammatical sentences, which we produce quickly and unconsciously every day.

Note, too, that these easy moral questions are frequently mastered by the age of five to seven years, the same age that marks the mastery of the basics of one&#039;s native tongue.  My seven-year-old knows that one never says &quot;dog the happy is&quot;, and that stealing is morally wrong, regardless of whether you get caught.  These laws of grammaticality and morality are unknown to most of the animal kingdom, regardless of how long they live.  So Rorty&#039;s assertion that moral codes are not assimilated especially quickly is also on shaky ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And another thing!</p>
<p>You quote Rorty as claiming that the grammaticality of a sentence is rarely a matter of doubt, while moral dilemmas leave us uncertain.  But he may not be comparing equivalent sets.</p>
<p>There are huge numbers of sentences whose grammaticality is in doubt.  A frequently-studied instance is the so-called &#8220;parasitic gap&#8221;, such as &#8220;Which paper did you read before you filed?&#8221;  &#8220;What kind of person do you like whenever you meet?&#8221; and similar.  Some people hate them, some people see nothing wrong with them, others are left in some kind of post-koan Zen state.  These grammaticality judgements may be analogous to difficult moral quandaries.</p>
<p>On the other hand, depending on how you define &#8220;moral dilemma&#8221;, there may be huge numbers of them that are easy to decide and hence are not usually counted as dilemmas.  For example, should I smack my mother for no reason?  The answer is obvious to anyone, as obvious as the grammaticality of &#8220;The dog is happy&#8221;.  These easy moral issues, which we solve quickly and unconsciously every day, may be analogous to standard grammatical sentences, which we produce quickly and unconsciously every day.</p>
<p>Note, too, that these easy moral questions are frequently mastered by the age of five to seven years, the same age that marks the mastery of the basics of one&#8217;s native tongue.  My seven-year-old knows that one never says &#8220;dog the happy is&#8221;, and that stealing is morally wrong, regardless of whether you get caught.  These laws of grammaticality and morality are unknown to most of the animal kingdom, regardless of how long they live.  So Rorty&#8217;s assertion that moral codes are not assimilated especially quickly is also on shaky ground.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Lilly</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/09/24/moral-minds-2/#comment-9100</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And another thing!

You quote Rorty as claiming that the grammaticality of a sentence is rarely a matter of doubt, while moral dilemmas leave us uncertain.  But he may not be comparing equivalent sets.

There are huge numbers of sentences whose grammaticality is in doubt.  A frequently-studied instance is the so-called &quot;parasitic gap&quot;, such as &quot;Which paper did you read before you filed?&quot;  &quot;What kind of person do you like whenever you meet?&quot; and similar.  Some people hate them, some people see nothing wrong with them, others are left in some kind of post-koan Zen state.  These grammaticality judgements may be analogous to difficult moral quandaries.

On the other hand, depending on how you define &quot;moral dilemma&quot;, there may be huge numbers of them that are easy to decide and hence are not usually counted as dilemmas.  For example, should I smack my mother for no reason?  The answer is obvious to anyone, as obvious as the grammaticality of &quot;The dog is happy&quot;.  These easy moral issues, which we solve quickly and unconsciously every day, may be analogous to standard grammatical sentences, which we produce quickly and unconsciously every day.

Note, too, that these easy moral questions are frequently mastered by the age of five to seven years, the same age that marks the mastery of the basics of one&#039;s native tongue.  My seven-year-old knows that one never says &quot;dog the happy is&quot;, and that stealing is morally wrong, regardless of whether you get caught.  These laws of grammaticality and morality are unknown to most of the animal kingdom, regardless of how long they live.  So Rorty&#039;s assertion that moral codes are not assimilated especially quickly is also on shaky ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And another thing!</p>
<p>You quote Rorty as claiming that the grammaticality of a sentence is rarely a matter of doubt, while moral dilemmas leave us uncertain.  But he may not be comparing equivalent sets.</p>
<p>There are huge numbers of sentences whose grammaticality is in doubt.  A frequently-studied instance is the so-called &#8220;parasitic gap&#8221;, such as &#8220;Which paper did you read before you filed?&#8221;  &#8220;What kind of person do you like whenever you meet?&#8221; and similar.  Some people hate them, some people see nothing wrong with them, others are left in some kind of post-koan Zen state.  These grammaticality judgements may be analogous to difficult moral quandaries.</p>
<p>On the other hand, depending on how you define &#8220;moral dilemma&#8221;, there may be huge numbers of them that are easy to decide and hence are not usually counted as dilemmas.  For example, should I smack my mother for no reason?  The answer is obvious to anyone, as obvious as the grammaticality of &#8220;The dog is happy&#8221;.  These easy moral issues, which we solve quickly and unconsciously every day, may be analogous to standard grammatical sentences, which we produce quickly and unconsciously every day.</p>
<p>Note, too, that these easy moral questions are frequently mastered by the age of five to seven years, the same age that marks the mastery of the basics of one&#8217;s native tongue.  My seven-year-old knows that one never says &#8220;dog the happy is&#8221;, and that stealing is morally wrong, regardless of whether you get caught.  These laws of grammaticality and morality are unknown to most of the animal kingdom, regardless of how long they live.  So Rorty&#8217;s assertion that moral codes are not assimilated especially quickly is also on shaky ground.</p>
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		<title>By: AlphaPsy</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/09/24/moral-minds-2/#comment-9085</link>
		<dc:creator>AlphaPsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Rorty vs. the Moral Mind (bis)...&lt;/strong&gt;

Rorty wrote : &quot;Nazi parents found it easy to turn their children into conscientious little monsters.&quot; He does not describe how nazi parents taught their children to be cruel with Jews. How did they accomplish such training ? By brainwashing as Pavlov...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Rorty vs. the Moral Mind (bis)&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Rorty wrote : &#8220;Nazi parents found it easy to turn their children into conscientious little monsters.&#8221; He does not describe how nazi parents taught their children to be cruel with Jews. How did they accomplish such training ? By brainwashing as Pavlov&#8230;</p>
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