Comments on: The Baffling Mind of Anya Kamenetz http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/ The Sweet Release of Reason Tue, 22 May 2012 20:28:45 +0000 hourly 1 By: Sunglasses http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8377 Sunglasses Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:18:45 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8377 I totally agree with the last post - the question is, where do we go from here? As an employer, I have no idea how I'm supposed to successfully rank graduates any more. I totally agree with the last post – the question is, where do we go from here? As an employer, I have no idea how I'm supposed to successfully rank graduates any more.

]]> By: Sunglasses http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8376 Sunglasses Sat, 05 Dec 2009 04:18:45 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8376 I totally agree with the last post - the question is, where do we go from here? As an employer, I have no idea how I'm supposed to successfully rank graduates any more. I totally agree with the last post – the question is, where do we go from here? As an employer, I have no idea how I'm supposed to successfully rank graduates any more.

]]> By: Sunglasses http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8375 Sunglasses Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:36:27 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8375 Great post.. College students are forced to take more and more debt for a degree that's less and less valuable. Undergraduate degrees are basically high school diplomas now, it's become so easy to go to school thanks to guaranteed student loans (and guaranteed loan money in the hands of youngsters doesn't give much incentive for the universities to compete on price, they know the kids are flush with cash). Great post.. College students are forced to take more and more debt for a degree that's less and less valuable. Undergraduate degrees are basically high school diplomas now, it's become so easy to go to school thanks to guaranteed student loans (and guaranteed loan money in the hands of youngsters doesn't give much incentive for the universities to compete on price, they know the kids are flush with cash).

]]> By: golfman_story http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8374 golfman_story Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:57:54 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8374 This is quite impressive, I am pleased to read this post, keep posts like this coming, you totally rock!<br><br><br><a href="http://sain-web.com" rel="nofollow">http://sain-web.com</a> This is quite impressive, I am pleased to read this post, keep posts like this coming, you totally rock!

http://sain-web.com

]]> By: Gerald V. Casale http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8373 Gerald V. Casale Sat, 04 Apr 2009 06:45:52 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8373 i have often wondered how much of her success is due to her attractive looks and cute personality. <br><br>ms. kamenetz doesn't know what she doesn't know. her youth, inexperience and naivety is obvious. <br><br>i do not understand why penguin and the times publishes this stuff...maybe because publishing is not a meritocracy? i have often wondered how much of her success is due to her attractive looks and cute personality.

ms. kamenetz doesn't know what she doesn't know. her youth, inexperience and naivety is obvious.

i do not understand why penguin and the times publishes this stuff…maybe because publishing is not a meritocracy?

]]> By: How to Ask for a raise http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8372 How to Ask for a raise Mon, 11 Dec 2006 04:34:26 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8372 this is all pretty good info, but you know that successfully negotiating a pay raise with your employer is the most profitable way you can spend a few minutes. this is all pretty good info, but you know that successfully negotiating a pay raise with your employer is the most profitable way you can spend a few minutes.

]]> By: How to Ask for a raise http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8395 How to Ask for a raise Mon, 11 Dec 2006 04:34:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8395 this is all pretty good info, but you know that successfully negotiating a pay raise with your employer is the most profitable way you can spend a few minutes. this is all pretty good info, but you know that successfully negotiating a pay raise with your employer is the most profitable way you can spend a few minutes.

]]> By: Oregon Commentator » Blog Archive » Student Exploitation: Not As Hot As It Sounds http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8371 Oregon Commentator » Blog Archive » Student Exploitation: Not As Hot As It Sounds Sun, 11 Jun 2006 00:06:01 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8371 [...] Smith isn’t the first to deride internships. Anya Kamenetz, author of the apparently abysmal Generation Debt, has been making a career out of it. Go to her blog and weep tears of anger. Anya Kamenetz is like an Ailee Slater with a book deal and professional cred. Will Wilkinson says all that needs to be said about Kamenetz here (hat tip: The Agitator) [...] [...] Smith isn’t the first to deride internships. Anya Kamenetz, author of the apparently abysmal Generation Debt, has been making a career out of it. Go to her blog and weep tears of anger. Anya Kamenetz is like an Ailee Slater with a book deal and professional cred. Will Wilkinson says all that needs to be said about Kamenetz here (hat tip: The Agitator) [...]

]]> By: mike http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8370 mike Fri, 02 Jun 2006 18:56:03 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8370 2 things... First, as a small business owner, I can't imagine paying somebody who is not at least a little grateful. Not that I need to feel appreciated, it's that a grateful employee does a better job than one who is not. Period. Also, internships are not just for the well-to-do. I completed an internship while waiting tables and going to school....yes, it sucked....but it can be done. I ended up with a much better career opportunity because of it. I've had many interns as well and I can say without hesitation that the time I spent teaching them didn't even come close to the time they "saved" me by working there. However, it was a great way to find and hire talented kids who were serious about working and truly interested in our business. 2 things…
First, as a small business owner, I can’t imagine paying somebody who is not at least a little grateful.
Not that I need to feel appreciated, it’s that a grateful employee does a better job than one who is not. Period.

Also, internships are not just for the well-to-do.
I completed an internship while waiting tables and going to school….yes, it sucked….but it can be done. I ended up with a much better career opportunity
because of it. I’ve had many interns as well and I can say without hesitation that the time I spent teaching them didn’t even come close to the time they “saved” me by working there. However, it was a great way to find and hire talented kids who were serious about working and truly interested in our business.

]]> By: mike http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8394 mike Fri, 02 Jun 2006 18:56:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8394 2 things... First, as a small business owner, I can't imagine paying somebody who is not at least a little grateful. Not that I need to feel appreciated, it's that a grateful employee does a better job than one who is not. Period. Also, internships are not just for the well-to-do. I completed an internship while waiting tables and going to school....yes, it sucked....but it can be done. I ended up with a much better career opportunity because of it. I've had many interns as well and I can say without hesitation that the time I spent teaching them didn't even come close to the time they "saved" me by working there. However, it was a great way to find and hire talented kids who were serious about working and truly interested in our business. 2 things…
First, as a small business owner, I can’t imagine paying somebody who is not at least a little grateful.
Not that I need to feel appreciated, it’s that a grateful employee does a better job than one who is not. Period.

Also, internships are not just for the well-to-do.
I completed an internship while waiting tables and going to school….yes, it sucked….but it can be done. I ended up with a much better career opportunity
because of it. I’ve had many interns as well and I can say without hesitation that the time I spent teaching them didn’t even come close to the time they “saved” me by working there. However, it was a great way to find and hire talented kids who were serious about working and truly interested in our business.

]]> By: Will Wilkinson http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8369 Will Wilkinson Fri, 02 Jun 2006 03:23:55 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8369 Bill, If it's a good opportunity, a good chance, then you should be grateful for the opportunity, and try to do it justice. There's a reason people intern for free, and usually its because they think it will be a good opportunity. Bill, If it’s a good opportunity, a good chance, then you should be grateful for the opportunity, and try to do it justice. There’s a reason people intern for free, and usually its because they think it will be a good opportunity.

]]> By: Will Wilkinson http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8393 Will Wilkinson Fri, 02 Jun 2006 03:23:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8393 Bill, If it's a good opportunity, a good chance, then you should be grateful for the opportunity, and try to do it justice. There's a reason people intern for free, and usually its because they think it will be a good opportunity. Bill, If it’s a good opportunity, a good chance, then you should be grateful for the opportunity, and try to do it justice. There’s a reason people intern for free, and usually its because they think it will be a good opportunity.

]]> By: BillKorner http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8368 BillKorner Thu, 01 Jun 2006 23:38:06 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8368 Why would gratitude ever be appropriate for an employee to feel simply in virtue of having been given a job? Supposedly, employers hire exactly the person that's most to their advantage not as a benefit to the employee. That's exactly what the economists' moral norms of the labor market tells them they should do. Gratitude, by contrast, is appropriate where someone extends a benefit beyond what was required by the relevant norms, especially when the benefiting action shows conscientious care for the plight of the beneficiary. It's not appropriate for me to feel grateful to the employer who pays me a prevailing wage of $5/hr when they could afford to pay me $100/hr (if not for the demands of shareholders) and I would be willing to stave off starvation for $3/hr. So now we must ask: Is ingratitude just the absense of gratitude? My view is that there is not really such an emotion as ingratitude. There is only gratitude and its absence. The actions that seem to manifest ingratitude really just exhibit a certain kind of anger and envy that come from feeling that one is being taken advantage of. Any comments from the peanut gallery on the emotional psychology... as opposed to its ideological implications? Why would gratitude ever be appropriate for an employee to feel simply in virtue of having been given a job? Supposedly, employers hire exactly the person that’s most to their advantage not as a benefit to the employee. That’s exactly what the economists’ moral norms of the labor market tells them they should do. Gratitude, by contrast, is appropriate where someone extends a benefit beyond what was required by the relevant norms, especially when the benefiting action shows conscientious care for the plight of the beneficiary.

It’s not appropriate for me to feel grateful to the employer who pays me a prevailing wage of $5/hr when they could afford to pay me $100/hr (if not for the demands of shareholders) and I would be willing to stave off starvation for $3/hr.

So now we must ask: Is ingratitude just the absense of gratitude? My view is that there is not really such an emotion as ingratitude. There is only gratitude and its absence. The actions that seem to manifest ingratitude really just exhibit a certain kind of anger and envy that come from feeling that one is being taken advantage of.

Any comments from the peanut gallery on the emotional psychology… as opposed to its ideological implications?

]]> By: BillKorner http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8392 BillKorner Thu, 01 Jun 2006 23:38:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8392 Why would gratitude ever be appropriate for an employee to feel simply in virtue of having been given a job? Supposedly, employers hire exactly the person that's most to their advantage not as a benefit to the employee. That's exactly what the economists' moral norms of the labor market tells them they should do. Gratitude, by contrast, is appropriate where someone extends a benefit beyond what was required by the relevant norms, especially when the benefiting action shows conscientious care for the plight of the beneficiary. It's not appropriate for me to feel grateful to the employer who pays me a prevailing wage of $5/hr when they could afford to pay me $100/hr (if not for the demands of shareholders) and I would be willing to stave off starvation for $3/hr. So now we must ask: Is ingratitude just the absense of gratitude? My view is that there is not really such an emotion as ingratitude. There is only gratitude and its absence. The actions that seem to manifest ingratitude really just exhibit a certain kind of anger and envy that come from feeling that one is being taken advantage of. Any comments from the peanut gallery on the emotional psychology... as opposed to its ideological implications? Why would gratitude ever be appropriate for an employee to feel simply in virtue of having been given a job? Supposedly, employers hire exactly the person that’s most to their advantage not as a benefit to the employee. That’s exactly what the economists’ moral norms of the labor market tells them they should do. Gratitude, by contrast, is appropriate where someone extends a benefit beyond what was required by the relevant norms, especially when the benefiting action shows conscientious care for the plight of the beneficiary.

It’s not appropriate for me to feel grateful to the employer who pays me a prevailing wage of $5/hr when they could afford to pay me $100/hr (if not for the demands of shareholders) and I would be willing to stave off starvation for $3/hr.

So now we must ask: Is ingratitude just the absense of gratitude? My view is that there is not really such an emotion as ingratitude. There is only gratitude and its absence. The actions that seem to manifest ingratitude really just exhibit a certain kind of anger and envy that come from feeling that one is being taken advantage of.

Any comments from the peanut gallery on the emotional psychology… as opposed to its ideological implications?

]]> By: happyjuggler0 http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8367 happyjuggler0 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:30:31 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/05/31/the-baffling-mind-of-anya-kamenetz/#comment-8367 Pop quiz: What's the difference between an education you get for free and an education you pay for? Answer: The first is called an internship. The second is called college. The notion that a business ought to pay someone for the privilege of on the job training, and then have that person leave after 3 months or 6 months is ludicrous. The real miracle is that there are actually paid internships. Pop quiz: What’s the difference between an education you get for free and an education you pay for?

Answer: The first is called an internship. The second is called college.

The notion that a business ought to pay someone for the privilege of on the job training, and then have that person leave after 3 months or 6 months is ludicrous. The real miracle is that there are actually paid internships.

]]>