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]]> By: L http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7916 L Tue, 04 Apr 2006 04:32:02 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7916 Singapore is often considered a liberal nondemocracy. It's a couple orders of magnitude larger than Monaco or Lichtenstein, about the size of New Zealand. Singapore is often considered a liberal nondemocracy. It’s a couple orders of magnitude larger than Monaco or Lichtenstein, about the size of New Zealand.

]]> By: L http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7925 L Tue, 04 Apr 2006 04:32:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7925 Singapore is often considered a liberal nondemocracy. It's a couple orders of magnitude larger than Monaco or Lichtenstein, about the size of New Zealand. Singapore is often considered a liberal nondemocracy. It’s a couple orders of magnitude larger than Monaco or Lichtenstein, about the size of New Zealand.

]]> By: Grumpy Guy http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7915 Grumpy Guy Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:47:58 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7915 Glancing over a list of countries ranked by population... http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/peo_pop ...there aren't that many large yet liberal non-democracies to choose from, though there more than enough large illiberal democracies to avoid. There just aren't that many non-democratic countries to choose from these days. Through much of the 19th Century, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand were not democratic. They were also large. Would not have minded living in those places. Glancing over a list of countries ranked by population…

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/peo_pop

…there aren’t that many large yet liberal non-democracies to choose from, though there more than enough large illiberal democracies to avoid. There just aren’t that many non-democratic countries to choose from these days.

Through much of the 19th Century, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand were not democratic. They were also large. Would not have minded living in those places.

]]> By: Grumpy Guy http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7924 Grumpy Guy Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:47:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7924 Glancing over a list of countries ranked by population... http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/peo_pop ...there aren't that many large yet liberal non-democracies to choose from, though there more than enough large illiberal democracies to avoid. There just aren't that many non-democratic countries to choose from these days. Through much of the 19th Century, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand were not democratic. They were also large. Would not have minded living in those places. Glancing over a list of countries ranked by population…

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/peo_pop

…there aren’t that many large yet liberal non-democracies to choose from, though there more than enough large illiberal democracies to avoid. There just aren’t that many non-democratic countries to choose from these days.

Through much of the 19th Century, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand were not democratic. They were also large. Would not have minded living in those places.

]]> By: mike http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7914 mike Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:27:30 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7914 Grumpy, I'm not trying to start a debate with you (honestly, I wouldn't want to live in India either) but can you name a larger country in which you'd like to live that's not a democracy? The countries you mentioned only have a few thousand citizens and don't have militaries, airports or many of the other 'problems' of a larger country. Grumpy,
I’m not trying to start a debate with you (honestly, I wouldn’t want to live in India either) but can you name a larger country in which you’d like to live that’s not a democracy? The countries you mentioned only have a few thousand citizens and don’t have militaries, airports or many of the other ‘problems’ of a larger country.

]]> By: mike http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7923 mike Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:27:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7923 Grumpy, I'm not trying to start a debate with you (honestly, I wouldn't want to live in India either) but can you name a larger country in which you'd like to live that's not a democracy? The countries you mentioned only have a few thousand citizens and don't have militaries, airports or many of the other 'problems' of a larger country. Grumpy,
I’m not trying to start a debate with you (honestly, I wouldn’t want to live in India either) but can you name a larger country in which you’d like to live that’s not a democracy? The countries you mentioned only have a few thousand citizens and don’t have militaries, airports or many of the other ‘problems’ of a larger country.

]]> By: Grumpy Guy http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7913 Grumpy Guy Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:59:50 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7913 Democracy is not all that special. I would rather live in Monaco or Liechtenstein without a democracy than in India with one. Democracy is not all that special. I would rather live in Monaco or Liechtenstein without a democracy than in India with one.

]]> By: Grumpy Guy http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7922 Grumpy Guy Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:59:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7922 Democracy is not all that special. I would rather live in Monaco or Liechtenstein without a democracy than in India with one. Democracy is not all that special. I would rather live in Monaco or Liechtenstein without a democracy than in India with one.

]]> By: mike http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7912 mike Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:41:41 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7912 I'm not sure that rigging immigration would have a tremendous effect on elections based on human nature versus our system (district maps/electoral college). People tend to move to a place that makes them comfortable. Those places are already populated with people of the same voting tendencies. I think it would take a huge wave of people, all moving to the same place, to make any meaningful difference. Asking if democracy is super special is kinda like asking if a car is super special. Well, is it a '78 Pacer or a top-o-the-line Mercedes? In theory, democracy is super special. But what kind of democracy is it? When you consider that: 1. regardless of record, most incumbents on a local level are re-elected. 2. by the end of the current presidential term we'll have had either a Bush or a Clinton in the white house for almost 30 years....unless Hillary wins. I think ours, in it's present state, is only special. I’m not sure that rigging immigration would have a tremendous effect on elections based on human nature versus our system (district maps/electoral college). People tend to move to a place that makes them comfortable. Those places are already populated with people of the same voting tendencies.
I think it would take a huge wave of people, all moving to the same place, to make any meaningful difference.

Asking if democracy is super special is kinda like asking if a car is super special. Well, is it a ’78 Pacer or a top-o-the-line Mercedes? In theory, democracy is super special. But what kind of democracy is it? When you consider that:
1. regardless of record, most incumbents on a local level are re-elected.
2. by the end of the current presidential term we’ll have had either a Bush or a Clinton in the white house for almost 30 years….unless Hillary wins.
I think ours, in it’s present state, is only special.

]]> By: mike http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7921 mike Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:41:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7921 I'm not sure that rigging immigration would have a tremendous effect on elections based on human nature versus our system (district maps/electoral college). People tend to move to a place that makes them comfortable. Those places are already populated with people of the same voting tendencies. I think it would take a huge wave of people, all moving to the same place, to make any meaningful difference. Asking if democracy is super special is kinda like asking if a car is super special. Well, is it a '78 Pacer or a top-o-the-line Mercedes? In theory, democracy is super special. But what kind of democracy is it? When you consider that: 1. regardless of record, most incumbents on a local level are re-elected. 2. by the end of the current presidential term we'll have had either a Bush or a Clinton in the white house for almost 30 years....unless Hillary wins. I think ours, in it's present state, is only special. I’m not sure that rigging immigration would have a tremendous effect on elections based on human nature versus our system (district maps/electoral college). People tend to move to a place that makes them comfortable. Those places are already populated with people of the same voting tendencies.
I think it would take a huge wave of people, all moving to the same place, to make any meaningful difference.

Asking if democracy is super special is kinda like asking if a car is super special. Well, is it a ’78 Pacer or a top-o-the-line Mercedes? In theory, democracy is super special. But what kind of democracy is it? When you consider that:
1. regardless of record, most incumbents on a local level are re-elected.
2. by the end of the current presidential term we’ll have had either a Bush or a Clinton in the white house for almost 30 years….unless Hillary wins.
I think ours, in it’s present state, is only special.

]]> By: John Thacker http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7911 John Thacker Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:05:58 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7911 How strongly can some of this be distinguished from gerrymandering, another case of politicians choosing their voters? Certainly effective gerrymandering techniques can distort the idea of democracy. How strongly can some of this be distinguished from gerrymandering, another case of politicians choosing their voters? Certainly effective gerrymandering techniques can distort the idea of democracy.

]]> By: John Thacker http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7920 John Thacker Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:05:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7920 How strongly can some of this be distinguished from gerrymandering, another case of politicians choosing their voters? Certainly effective gerrymandering techniques can distort the idea of democracy. How strongly can some of this be distinguished from gerrymandering, another case of politicians choosing their voters? Certainly effective gerrymandering techniques can distort the idea of democracy.

]]> By: Sam http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7910 Sam Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:43:11 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7910 I'm a student studying games design at uni, but I did an A-Level in politics. I loved it and I hated it at the same time, democracy has never been democatic! (why does minority=unimportant, FPTP Elects with a consolidated minority!low turnout etc). Well ok it seems better than living in a dictatorship but when people are pursuaded by "personality" over policy surely they have missed the point(and surely a clever and manipulative dictator could still have a Nice, likeable personality). It amazes me how many people don't even understand how our political system works. Obviously I was also guilty of this lack of understanding before I did an alevel but you would've thought it might be something important enough to be taught in school to Everyone. My parents weren't completely sure, none of my friends knew, most of my new flatmates (all in their final years) don't know exactly either, my uni friends don't, but worst of all they dont care! People are uneducated and uninterested, and in a world where people are uninterested how can democracy ever truly exist anyway? I’m a student studying games design at uni, but I did an A-Level in politics. I loved it and I hated it at the same time, democracy has never been democatic! (why does minority=unimportant, FPTP Elects with a consolidated minority!low turnout etc). Well ok it seems better than living in a dictatorship but when people are pursuaded by “personality” over policy surely they have missed the point(and surely a clever and manipulative dictator could still have a Nice, likeable personality). It amazes me how many people don’t even understand how our political system works. Obviously I was also guilty of this lack of understanding before I did an alevel but you would’ve thought it might be something important enough to be taught in school to Everyone. My parents weren’t completely sure, none of my friends knew, most of my new flatmates (all in their final years) don’t know exactly either, my uni friends don’t, but worst of all they dont care! People are uneducated and uninterested, and in a world where people are uninterested how can democracy ever truly exist anyway?

]]> By: Sam http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7919 Sam Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:43:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2006/03/20/demographics-and-democracy/#comment-7919 I'm a student studying games design at uni, but I did an A-Level in politics. I loved it and I hated it at the same time, democracy has never been democatic! (why does minority=unimportant, FPTP Elects with a consolidated minority!low turnout etc). Well ok it seems better than living in a dictatorship but when people are pursuaded by "personality" over policy surely they have missed the point(and surely a clever and manipulative dictator could still have a Nice, likeable personality). It amazes me how many people don't even understand how our political system works. Obviously I was also guilty of this lack of understanding before I did an alevel but you would've thought it might be something important enough to be taught in school to Everyone. My parents weren't completely sure, none of my friends knew, most of my new flatmates (all in their final years) don't know exactly either, my uni friends don't, but worst of all they dont care! People are uneducated and uninterested, and in a world where people are uninterested how can democracy ever truly exist anyway? I’m a student studying games design at uni, but I did an A-Level in politics. I loved it and I hated it at the same time, democracy has never been democatic! (why does minority=unimportant, FPTP Elects with a consolidated minority!low turnout etc). Well ok it seems better than living in a dictatorship but when people are pursuaded by “personality” over policy surely they have missed the point(and surely a clever and manipulative dictator could still have a Nice, likeable personality). It amazes me how many people don’t even understand how our political system works. Obviously I was also guilty of this lack of understanding before I did an alevel but you would’ve thought it might be something important enough to be taught in school to Everyone. My parents weren’t completely sure, none of my friends knew, most of my new flatmates (all in their final years) don’t know exactly either, my uni friends don’t, but worst of all they dont care! People are uneducated and uninterested, and in a world where people are uninterested how can democracy ever truly exist anyway?

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