Comments on: Paglia v. Philosophy http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/07/14/paglia-v-philosophy/ The Sweet Release of Reason Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:11:50 +0000 hourly 1 By: sukienki http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/07/14/paglia-v-philosophy/#comment-6116 sukienki Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:00:30 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=764#comment-6116 Blog is super Blog is super

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]]> By: kral oyun http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/07/14/paglia-v-philosophy/#comment-6120 kral oyun Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:26:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=764#comment-6120 Thank you It’s very beautifully Thank you It’s very beautifully

]]> By: J Wilkins http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/07/14/paglia-v-philosophy/#comment-6114 J Wilkins Wed, 09 Aug 2006 19:35:10 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=764#comment-6114 The prevalence of philosophical discussion, or even of publication, is certainly not a sign of true fecundity. A strictly Anglo/Analytic view of philosophy might continue to take comfort in the rigorous training today's students must take in symbolic logic(s), but it is far from clear that today's PhDs are as reliably schooled in either the methods or traditions of philosophy as their peers in centuries past. Martha Nussbaum, for instance, with her deadening pseudo-Neo-Aristotelian schtick, started as a sort of lesser Alasdair MacIntyre and has devolved into mere literary journalism. But more centrally, whether or not Paglia attends to philosophical discussion forums and the Journals of Philosophy or not, current philosophy does not represent a "high-water mark", even by the standards of academic philosophers! Anyone who thinks Foucault supersedes Heidegger or Husserl is only an anthropologist (not a good one, at that). But let me address this question of hegemony briefly. Bewailing a lack of classical music on the radio is not a complaint about the failure of "traditions": it's a complain about a lack of Bach, Bruckner, Mozart, Mahler! If the new order of things is so grand, why hasn't it provided room for what has come before? If today's kids are content to listen to their music out of a cellphone for novelty's sake, some of us do adhere to a genre (Classical, for present discussion) which requires the survival of certain traditions-- well-staffed orchestras with sufficient funds, a stock of conductors and players who are not content to devolve into Vanessa-Maes, as well as the schooling itself which grooms such performers. Strictly speaking, neither the Internet nor any other form of New Media has the power to eliminate these traditions, short of Skylab (?: apologies to James Cameron, but I just had a "Terminator 2" nightmare last night!) dropping nukes on Dartmouth, the British Museum, and the Vienna Philharmonic. It is entirely a question of rival priorities: should people devote themselves to idling on the Internet, or to a pagebound, blessedly Keira Knightley-free (that Cockney, cockeyed twerp! that aerobized hide in an Empire dress, indeed!) "Pride and Prejudice"? Until further notice, that is the Elysium to which I shall retire. The prevalence of philosophical discussion, or even of publication, is certainly not a sign of true fecundity. A strictly Anglo/Analytic view of philosophy might continue to take comfort in the rigorous training today’s students must take in symbolic logic(s), but it is far from clear that today’s PhDs are as reliably schooled in either the methods or traditions of philosophy as their peers in centuries past. Martha Nussbaum, for instance, with her deadening pseudo-Neo-Aristotelian schtick, started as a sort of lesser Alasdair MacIntyre and has devolved into mere literary journalism. But more centrally, whether or not Paglia attends to philosophical discussion forums and the Journals of Philosophy or not, current philosophy does not represent a “high-water mark”, even by the standards of academic philosophers! Anyone who thinks Foucault supersedes Heidegger or Husserl is only an anthropologist (not a good one, at that).
But let me address this question of hegemony briefly. Bewailing a lack of classical music on the radio is not a complaint about the failure of “traditions”: it’s a complain about a lack of Bach, Bruckner, Mozart, Mahler! If the new order of things is so grand, why hasn’t it provided room for what has come before? If today’s kids are content to listen to their music out of a cellphone for novelty’s sake, some of us do adhere to a genre (Classical, for present discussion) which requires the survival of certain traditions– well-staffed orchestras with sufficient funds, a stock of conductors and players who are not content to devolve into Vanessa-Maes, as well as the schooling itself which grooms such performers. Strictly speaking, neither the Internet nor any other form of New Media has the power to eliminate these traditions, short of Skylab (?: apologies to James Cameron, but I just had a “Terminator 2″ nightmare last night!) dropping nukes on Dartmouth, the British Museum, and the Vienna Philharmonic. It is entirely a question of rival priorities: should people devote themselves to idling on the Internet, or to a pagebound, blessedly Keira Knightley-free (that Cockney, cockeyed twerp! that aerobized hide in an Empire dress, indeed!) “Pride and Prejudice”? Until further notice, that is the Elysium to which I shall retire.

]]> By: J Wilkins http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/07/14/paglia-v-philosophy/#comment-6119 J Wilkins Wed, 09 Aug 2006 19:35:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=764#comment-6119 The prevalence of philosophical discussion, or even of publication, is certainly not a sign of true fecundity. A strictly Anglo/Analytic view of philosophy might continue to take comfort in the rigorous training today's students must take in symbolic logic(s), but it is far from clear that today's PhDs are as reliably schooled in either the methods or traditions of philosophy as their peers in centuries past. Martha Nussbaum, for instance, with her deadening pseudo-Neo-Aristotelian schtick, started as a sort of lesser Alasdair MacIntyre and has devolved into mere literary journalism. But more centrally, whether or not Paglia attends to philosophical discussion forums and the Journals of Philosophy or not, current philosophy does not represent a "high-water mark", even by the standards of academic philosophers! Anyone who thinks Foucault supersedes Heidegger or Husserl is only an anthropologist (not a good one, at that). But let me address this question of hegemony briefly. Bewailing a lack of classical music on the radio is not a complaint about the failure of "traditions": it's a complain about a lack of Bach, Bruckner, Mozart, Mahler! If the new order of things is so grand, why hasn't it provided room for what has come before? If today's kids are content to listen to their music out of a cellphone for novelty's sake, some of us do adhere to a genre (Classical, for present discussion) which requires the survival of certain traditions-- well-staffed orchestras with sufficient funds, a stock of conductors and players who are not content to devolve into Vanessa-Maes, as well as the schooling itself which grooms such performers. Strictly speaking, neither the Internet nor any other form of New Media has the power to eliminate these traditions, short of Skylab (?: apologies to James Cameron, but I just had a "Terminator 2" nightmare last night!) dropping nukes on Dartmouth, the British Museum, and the Vienna Philharmonic. It is entirely a question of rival priorities: should people devote themselves to idling on the Internet, or to a pagebound, blessedly Keira Knightley-free (that Cockney, cockeyed twerp! that aerobized hide in an Empire dress, indeed!) "Pride and Prejudice"? Until further notice, that is the Elysium to which I shall retire. The prevalence of philosophical discussion, or even of publication, is certainly not a sign of true fecundity. A strictly Anglo/Analytic view of philosophy might continue to take comfort in the rigorous training today’s students must take in symbolic logic(s), but it is far from clear that today’s PhDs are as reliably schooled in either the methods or traditions of philosophy as their peers in centuries past. Martha Nussbaum, for instance, with her deadening pseudo-Neo-Aristotelian schtick, started as a sort of lesser Alasdair MacIntyre and has devolved into mere literary journalism. But more centrally, whether or not Paglia attends to philosophical discussion forums and the Journals of Philosophy or not, current philosophy does not represent a “high-water mark”, even by the standards of academic philosophers! Anyone who thinks Foucault supersedes Heidegger or Husserl is only an anthropologist (not a good one, at that).
But let me address this question of hegemony briefly. Bewailing a lack of classical music on the radio is not a complaint about the failure of “traditions”: it’s a complain about a lack of Bach, Bruckner, Mozart, Mahler! If the new order of things is so grand, why hasn’t it provided room for what has come before? If today’s kids are content to listen to their music out of a cellphone for novelty’s sake, some of us do adhere to a genre (Classical, for present discussion) which requires the survival of certain traditions– well-staffed orchestras with sufficient funds, a stock of conductors and players who are not content to devolve into Vanessa-Maes, as well as the schooling itself which grooms such performers. Strictly speaking, neither the Internet nor any other form of New Media has the power to eliminate these traditions, short of Skylab (?: apologies to James Cameron, but I just had a “Terminator 2″ nightmare last night!) dropping nukes on Dartmouth, the British Museum, and the Vienna Philharmonic. It is entirely a question of rival priorities: should people devote themselves to idling on the Internet, or to a pagebound, blessedly Keira Knightley-free (that Cockney, cockeyed twerp! that aerobized hide in an Empire dress, indeed!) “Pride and Prejudice”? Until further notice, that is the Elysium to which I shall retire.

]]> By: Linda F http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/07/14/paglia-v-philosophy/#comment-6118 Linda F Sat, 16 Jul 2005 07:27:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=764#comment-6118 The cultural change may even be greater than that upheaval that occurred when the printing press was invented. That led to an explosion in written materials, the growth of schools (which, to be fair, were more focused on basic literacy that classic academic training), the rise of the middle-class, and citizens agitating for a voice in governing themselves. I'm like a lot of people who look at the surrounding culture - it seems vulgar and stupid. However, even I can see that it is infinitely more complex than what preceded it. What it will become, as the people that shaped it age, I don't know. Judging from the young people I see (I am a teacher), it could be better, eventually, than what came before. The cultural change may even be greater than that upheaval that occurred when the printing press was invented. That led to an explosion in written materials, the growth of schools (which, to be fair, were more focused on basic literacy that classic academic training), the rise of the middle-class, and citizens agitating for a voice in governing themselves.

I’m like a lot of people who look at the surrounding culture – it seems vulgar and stupid. However, even I can see that it is infinitely more complex than what preceded it. What it will become, as the people that shaped it age, I don’t know. Judging from the young people I see (I am a teacher), it could be better, eventually, than what came before.

]]> By: Insiderman http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/07/14/paglia-v-philosophy/#comment-6117 Insiderman Fri, 15 Jul 2005 20:24:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=764#comment-6117 Does Camille Paglia really believe that "The web mimics human neurology, and it is fundmentally altering young people's brains?" Okay... if it mimics human neurology, how does it change what it mimics. Doesn't the human brain, in fact, change the internet? Second, the internet doesn't necessarily mimic the human brain. The internet relies on quite linear associations where the human brain can be quite non-linear. Camille Paglia is a professor of the Humanities. The only thing we could agree on is that the concept of "date rape" is an outrage. Does Camille Paglia really believe that “The web mimics human neurology, and it is fundmentally altering young people’s brains?” Okay… if it mimics human neurology, how does it change what it mimics. Doesn’t the human brain, in fact, change the internet?

Second, the internet doesn’t necessarily mimic the human brain. The internet relies on quite linear associations where the human brain can be quite non-linear.

Camille Paglia is a professor of the Humanities. The only thing we could agree on is that the concept of “date rape” is an outrage.

]]> By: Insiderman http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/07/14/paglia-v-philosophy/#comment-6112 Insiderman Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=764#comment-6112 Does Camille Paglia really believe that "The web mimics human neurology, and it is fundmentally altering young people's brains?" Okay... if it mimics human neurology, how does it change what it mimics. Doesn't the human brain, in fact, change the internet? Second, the internet doesn't necessarily mimic the human brain. The internet relies on quite linear associations where the human brain can be quite non-linear. Camille Paglia is a professor of the Humanities. The only thing we could agree on is that the concept of "date rape" is an outrage. Does Camille Paglia really believe that “The web mimics human neurology, and it is fundmentally altering young people’s brains?” Okay… if it mimics human neurology, how does it change what it mimics. Doesn’t the human brain, in fact, change the internet?

Second, the internet doesn’t necessarily mimic the human brain. The internet relies on quite linear associations where the human brain can be quite non-linear.

Camille Paglia is a professor of the Humanities. The only thing we could agree on is that the concept of “date rape” is an outrage.

]]> By: Linda F http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/07/14/paglia-v-philosophy/#comment-6113 Linda F Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=764#comment-6113 The cultural change may even be greater than that upheaval that occurred when the printing press was invented. That led to an explosion in written materials, the growth of schools (which, to be fair, were more focused on basic literacy that classic academic training), the rise of the middle-class, and citizens agitating for a voice in governing themselves. I'm like a lot of people who look at the surrounding culture - it seems vulgar and stupid. However, even I can see that it is infinitely more complex than what preceded it. What it will become, as the people that shaped it age, I don't know. Judging from the young people I see (I am a teacher), it could be better, eventually, than what came before. The cultural change may even be greater than that upheaval that occurred when the printing press was invented. That led to an explosion in written materials, the growth of schools (which, to be fair, were more focused on basic literacy that classic academic training), the rise of the middle-class, and citizens agitating for a voice in governing themselves.

I’m like a lot of people who look at the surrounding culture – it seems vulgar and stupid. However, even I can see that it is infinitely more complex than what preceded it. What it will become, as the people that shaped it age, I don’t know. Judging from the young people I see (I am a teacher), it could be better, eventually, than what came before.

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