Comments on: "Reality-Based" http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/05/17/reality-based/ The Sweet Release of Reason Tue, 22 May 2012 20:28:45 +0000 hourly 1 By: Ilse Jacobsen Sko http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/05/17/reality-based/#comment-5628 Ilse Jacobsen Sko Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:47:46 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=709#comment-5628 4uexp2zvqh Well said 4uexp2zvqh http://sko.xs07.info 4uexp2zvqh Well said 4uexp2zvqh http://sko.xs07.info

]]> By: Ilse Jacobsen Sko http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/05/17/reality-based/#comment-5640 Ilse Jacobsen Sko Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:47:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=709#comment-5640 4uexp2zvqh Well said 4uexp2zvqh http://sko.xs07.info 4uexp2zvqh Well said 4uexp2zvqh http://sko.xs07.info

]]> By: dkfinder http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/05/17/reality-based/#comment-5627 dkfinder Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:19:29 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=709#comment-5627 9p2746xbou This is so true! 9p2746xbou 9p2746xbou This is so true! 9p2746xbou

]]> By: dkfinder http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/05/17/reality-based/#comment-5639 dkfinder Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:19:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=709#comment-5639 9p2746xbou This is so true! 9p2746xbou 9p2746xbou This is so true! 9p2746xbou

]]> By: monkyboy http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/05/17/reality-based/#comment-5638 monkyboy Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:07:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=709#comment-5638 Hehe, Sigvald, as a Republican I enjoy the antics of the Demos, too. It doesn't it matter to me who runs their show and the entertainment factor is pure profit. On the Republican side, the clowns are far less funny. They are turning the Bush presidency into one of *those* administrations, the ones historians point out as pardigms of corruption and incompetence. The kind that bring down empires... Hehe, Sigvald, as a Republican I enjoy the antics of the Demos, too. It doesn’t it matter to me who runs their show and the entertainment factor is pure profit.

On the Republican side, the clowns are far less funny. They are turning the Bush presidency into one of *those* administrations, the ones historians point out as pardigms of corruption and incompetence. The kind that bring down empires…

]]> By: Sigivald http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/05/17/reality-based/#comment-5637 Sigivald Mon, 06 Jun 2005 16:32:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=709#comment-5637 Monky: Now, now. Howard Dean isn't the stupidest man on earth, though he may well do an excellent job of aiding the destruction of the Democrat party with his random, costly, and ineffective actions as DNC Chair. As for the aide quote, yeah, that sure is where it's from. It's amusing, though, that an anonymous aide's quote is taken as Gospel (pun intended) as to the actual beliefs and actions of the Administration. I guess there's nothing as seductive as being told exactly what you already believe, regardless of any counter-evidence, is there? Monky: Now, now. Howard Dean isn’t the stupidest man on earth, though he may well do an excellent job of aiding the destruction of the Democrat party with his random, costly, and ineffective actions as DNC Chair.

As for the aide quote, yeah, that sure is where it’s from. It’s amusing, though, that an anonymous aide’s quote is taken as Gospel (pun intended) as to the actual beliefs and actions of the Administration.

I guess there’s nothing as seductive as being told exactly what you already believe, regardless of any counter-evidence, is there?

]]> By: praktike http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/05/17/reality-based/#comment-5636 praktike Wed, 25 May 2005 15:12:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=709#comment-5636 Why not be honest and call yourself a proud member of the "you're either stupid or evil if you don't agree with me community?" Good idea. I'll change my template. Why not be honest and call yourself a proud member of the “you’re either stupid or evil if you don’t agree with me community?”

Good idea. I’ll change my template.

]]> By: monkyboy http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/05/17/reality-based/#comment-5635 monkyboy Sun, 22 May 2005 18:41:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=709#comment-5635 Maybe the split should be "Reality-based" and "Feith-based". Carefully considered actions vs. random, costly and ineffective actions thought up by "the stupidest fucking guy on the face of the earth." I think this would sum up the current difference between Democrats and Republicans nicely. Maybe the split should be “Reality-based” and “Feith-based”. Carefully considered actions vs. random, costly and ineffective actions thought up by “the stupidest fucking guy on the face of the earth.”

I think this would sum up the current difference between Democrats and Republicans nicely.

]]> By: Julian Sanchez http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/05/17/reality-based/#comment-5634 Julian Sanchez Sat, 21 May 2005 15:23:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=709#comment-5634 The origin of it as used on liberal blogs is very obviously--and was explicitly explained to be when people started adding it as a tagline--from the quotation, not by analogy to "faith-based." But it does wear a bit thin. The origin of it as used on liberal blogs is very obviously–and was explicitly explained to be when people started adding it as a tagline–from the quotation, not by analogy to “faith-based.” But it does wear a bit thin.

]]> By: Richard http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/05/17/reality-based/#comment-5633 Richard Thu, 19 May 2005 03:17:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=709#comment-5633 Joe, I guess it just depends what circles you hang out in. Absolutely every liberal blog-reader knows about the aide's comments, due to their scandalous implications regarding the Bush administration's epistemic practices. Really, it was THE big story a couple of months back. If you haven't come across the quote before, then you clearly don't read liberal blogs, and thus aren't in much of a position to be speculating about what is or isn't "well known" to their audiences. Joe, I guess it just depends what circles you hang out in. Absolutely every liberal blog-reader knows about the aide’s comments, due to their scandalous implications regarding the Bush administration’s epistemic practices. Really, it was THE big story a couple of months back. If you haven’t come across the quote before, then you clearly don’t read liberal blogs, and thus aren’t in much of a position to be speculating about what is or isn’t “well known” to their audiences.

]]> By: Joe R. the Unabrewer http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/05/17/reality-based/#comment-5632 Joe R. the Unabrewer Wed, 18 May 2005 11:32:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=709#comment-5632 How many people claim to be "reality based" in reference to the above quote, and how many claim to be "reality based" having never heard of the above quote (and thinking their opposite is "faith based")? I think "faith-based initiatives" is a far more well known standard. How many people claim to be “reality based” in reference to the above quote, and how many claim to be “reality based” having never heard of the above quote (and thinking their opposite is “faith based”)? I think “faith-based initiatives” is a far more well known standard.

]]> By: Tom Hanna http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/05/17/reality-based/#comment-5631 Tom Hanna Tue, 17 May 2005 23:38:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=709#comment-5631 Somehow I had missed the connection to "faith based" and just caught the arrogance. Here's a philosophical thought for you...if people of faith are right (about whatever they are supposedly wrong about), then wouldn't that make people without faith out of touch with reality? Somehow I had missed the connection to “faith based” and just caught the arrogance. Here’s a philosophical thought for you…if people of faith are right (about whatever they are supposedly wrong about), then wouldn’t that make people without faith out of touch with reality?

]]> By: Bob McGrew http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/05/17/reality-based/#comment-5630 Bob McGrew Tue, 17 May 2005 16:52:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=709#comment-5630 Thanks, Will. I've seen the quote, too, but I've been thinking the exact same thing. Thanks, Will. I’ve seen the quote, too, but I’ve been thinking the exact same thing.

]]> By: Glenn Bridgman http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/05/17/reality-based/#comment-5629 Glenn Bridgman Tue, 17 May 2005 10:16:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=709#comment-5629 It makes significantly more sense in light of the actual etymology, namely this quote from a administration aide: "The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."" It's still self-righteous bullshit, but I think that, in the context of that quote, it might be the lesser of two santimony's. It makes significantly more sense in light of the actual etymology, namely this quote from a administration aide:
“The aide said that guys like me were “in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who “believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” … “That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”"

It’s still self-righteous bullshit, but I think that, in the context of that quote, it might be the lesser of two santimony’s.

]]> By: Glenn Bridgman http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/05/17/reality-based/#comment-5616 Glenn Bridgman Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=709#comment-5616 It makes significantly more sense in light of the actual etymology, namely this quote from a administration aide: "The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."" It's still self-righteous bullshit, but I think that, in the context of that quote, it might be the lesser of two santimony's. It makes significantly more sense in light of the actual etymology, namely this quote from a administration aide:
“The aide said that guys like me were “in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who “believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” … “That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”"

It’s still self-righteous bullshit, but I think that, in the context of that quote, it might be the lesser of two santimony’s.

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