Comments on: Blackburn v. Rationalists http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/03/17/blackburn-v-rationalists/ The Sweet Release of Reason Tue, 22 May 2012 20:28:45 +0000 hourly 1 By: aallamas0617 http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/03/17/blackburn-v-rationalists/#comment-4962 aallamas0617 Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:47:23 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=673#comment-4962 nice article! nice site. you're in my rss feed now ;-)<br>keep it up nice article! nice site. you're in my rss feed now ;-)
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]]> By: Lonnie Riet http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/03/17/blackburn-v-rationalists/#comment-4961 Lonnie Riet Sat, 27 May 2006 23:01:14 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=673#comment-4961 Blackburn uses nice words. He writes a little "better" than most philosophers, if you like color and flavor and such. And I guess he has a point. But, as Winston Smith already pointed out, when he talks about "best passions" it´s mostly empty. He likes impressive rhetorics a little too much, rather like some continental philosophers. Blackburn uses nice words. He writes a little “better” than most philosophers, if you like color and flavor and such. And I guess he has a point. But, as Winston Smith already pointed out, when he talks about “best passions” it´s mostly empty. He likes impressive rhetorics a little too much, rather like some continental philosophers.

]]> By: Lonnie Riet http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/03/17/blackburn-v-rationalists/#comment-4969 Lonnie Riet Sat, 27 May 2006 23:01:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=673#comment-4969 Blackburn uses nice words. He writes a little "better" than most philosophers, if you like color and flavor and such. And I guess he has a point. But, as Winston Smith already pointed out, when he talks about "best passions" it´s mostly empty. He likes impressive rhetorics a little too much, rather like some continental philosophers. Blackburn uses nice words. He writes a little “better” than most philosophers, if you like color and flavor and such. And I guess he has a point. But, as Winston Smith already pointed out, when he talks about “best passions” it´s mostly empty. He likes impressive rhetorics a little too much, rather like some continental philosophers.

]]> By: Winston Smith http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/03/17/blackburn-v-rationalists/#comment-4968 Winston Smith Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:10:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=673#comment-4968 Well, Blackburn was a prof of mine, and I like him. And he's good at putting "rationalism" in the harshest possible light--which is a good thing for inquiry. But his own view...well... Humeans and their ilk ultimately have to admit that they just don't think there's any real sense in which their sentiments are good or right. They're only "good" and "right." Now, I think that moral nihilism/eliminativism might be a respectable position...but the Humeans seem unable to recognize that they're (basically) nihilists/eliminativists. But the strength of Hume and the humeans has always been in criticizing their opponents. When it comes to defense of their view...well, it's probably indefensible. Well, Blackburn was a prof of mine, and I like him. And he’s good at putting “rationalism” in the harshest possible light–which is a good thing for inquiry. But his own view…well… Humeans and their ilk ultimately have to admit that they just don’t think there’s any real sense in which their sentiments are good or right. They’re only “good” and “right.” Now, I think that moral nihilism/eliminativism might be a respectable position…but the Humeans seem unable to recognize that they’re (basically) nihilists/eliminativists. But the strength of Hume and the humeans has always been in criticizing their opponents. When it comes to defense of their view…well, it’s probably indefensible.

]]> By: brendan http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/03/17/blackburn-v-rationalists/#comment-4967 brendan Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:07:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=673#comment-4967 Hello, I was reading some older entries and noticed you were a fan of Michael Badnarik's. We held a chat with him on Friday night and a transcript of the chat is still up. Please go to <a href="http://commongroundcommonsense.org/forums/" rel="nofollow">http://commongroundcommonsense.org/forums/</a> You'll see his topic. He started responding on the 3rd page and stayed for 3 hours. :) Hello, I was reading some older entries and noticed you were a fan of Michael Badnarik’s. We held a chat with him on Friday night and a transcript of the chat is still up.

Please go to http://commongroundcommonsense.org/forums/

You’ll see his topic. He started responding on the 3rd page and stayed for 3 hours. :)

]]> By: Julian Sanchez http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/03/17/blackburn-v-rationalists/#comment-4966 Julian Sanchez Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:15:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=673#comment-4966 I feel like I should chime in to note that my own view isn't quite the "Holy Grail" one that I take Blackburn to be attacking here. That is to say, I too doubt that there's some sort of argument from the Pure Dictates of Reason that would get a moral skeptic to buy into an ethical system from strictly nonmoral premises. My sense is that I probably think we can get further from a thinner moral starting point than Will does, and also that rational reflection has a relatively large role to play in refining and rendering consistent our intuitive or empathic starting point--maybe a larger role than Will would give it, though I'm not sure about that one. I feel like I should chime in to note that my own view isn’t quite the “Holy Grail” one that I take Blackburn to be attacking here. That is to say, I too doubt that there’s some sort of argument from the Pure Dictates of Reason that would get a moral skeptic to buy into an ethical system from strictly nonmoral premises. My sense is that I probably think we can get further from a thinner moral starting point than Will does, and also that rational reflection has a relatively large role to play in refining and rendering consistent our intuitive or empathic starting point–maybe a larger role than Will would give it, though I’m not sure about that one.

]]> By: Luka Yovetich http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/03/17/blackburn-v-rationalists/#comment-4965 Luka Yovetich Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:30:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=673#comment-4965 Maybe? Interesting. I'll have to drag some more about that out of you at some point. And thanks. The Jayhawks broke my heart last night. Such a disappointing season...Preseason #1. Start of 20-1. End up losing 6 of their last 9 games including their first 1st round NCAA tourney loss since 1978. Ugh. God I wanted to see that matchup with Carolina in the Elite Eight... Maybe? Interesting. I’ll have to drag some more about that out of you at some point.

And thanks. The Jayhawks broke my heart last night. Such a disappointing season…Preseason #1. Start of 20-1. End up losing 6 of their last 9 games including their first 1st round NCAA tourney loss since 1978. Ugh.

God I wanted to see that matchup with Carolina in the Elite Eight…

]]> By: Will Wilkinson http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/03/17/blackburn-v-rationalists/#comment-4964 Will Wilkinson Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:43:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=673#comment-4964 Luka, Maybe. Sorry about KU! Luka, Maybe. Sorry about KU!

]]> By: Luka Yovetich http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/03/17/blackburn-v-rationalists/#comment-4963 Luka Yovetich Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:40:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=673#comment-4963 Quite lovely. I don't know if I agree with Blackburn. But he's a wonderful philosopher. I forget, are you a non-cognitivist, Will? Quite lovely. I don’t know if I agree with Blackburn. But he’s a wonderful philosopher.

I forget, are you a non-cognitivist, Will?

]]> By: Luka Yovetich http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/03/17/blackburn-v-rationalists/#comment-4955 Luka Yovetich Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=673#comment-4955 Quite lovely. I don't know if I agree with Blackburn. But he's a wonderful philosopher. I forget, are you a non-cognitivist, Will? Quite lovely. I don’t know if I agree with Blackburn. But he’s a wonderful philosopher.

I forget, are you a non-cognitivist, Will?

]]> By: Will Wilkinson http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/03/17/blackburn-v-rationalists/#comment-4956 Will Wilkinson Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=673#comment-4956 Luka, Maybe. Sorry about KU! Luka, Maybe. Sorry about KU!

]]> By: Luka Yovetich http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/03/17/blackburn-v-rationalists/#comment-4957 Luka Yovetich Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=673#comment-4957 Maybe? Interesting. I'll have to drag some more about that out of you at some point. And thanks. The Jayhawks broke my heart last night. Such a disappointing season...Preseason #1. Start of 20-1. End up losing 6 of their last 9 games including their first 1st round NCAA tourney loss since 1978. Ugh. God I wanted to see that matchup with Carolina in the Elite Eight... Maybe? Interesting. I’ll have to drag some more about that out of you at some point.

And thanks. The Jayhawks broke my heart last night. Such a disappointing season…Preseason #1. Start of 20-1. End up losing 6 of their last 9 games including their first 1st round NCAA tourney loss since 1978. Ugh.

God I wanted to see that matchup with Carolina in the Elite Eight…

]]> By: Julian Sanchez http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/03/17/blackburn-v-rationalists/#comment-4958 Julian Sanchez Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=673#comment-4958 I feel like I should chime in to note that my own view isn't quite the "Holy Grail" one that I take Blackburn to be attacking here. That is to say, I too doubt that there's some sort of argument from the Pure Dictates of Reason that would get a moral skeptic to buy into an ethical system from strictly nonmoral premises. My sense is that I probably think we can get further from a thinner moral starting point than Will does, and also that rational reflection has a relatively large role to play in refining and rendering consistent our intuitive or empathic starting point--maybe a larger role than Will would give it, though I'm not sure about that one. I feel like I should chime in to note that my own view isn’t quite the “Holy Grail” one that I take Blackburn to be attacking here. That is to say, I too doubt that there’s some sort of argument from the Pure Dictates of Reason that would get a moral skeptic to buy into an ethical system from strictly nonmoral premises. My sense is that I probably think we can get further from a thinner moral starting point than Will does, and also that rational reflection has a relatively large role to play in refining and rendering consistent our intuitive or empathic starting point–maybe a larger role than Will would give it, though I’m not sure about that one.

]]> By: brendan http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/03/17/blackburn-v-rationalists/#comment-4959 brendan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=673#comment-4959 Hello, I was reading some older entries and noticed you were a fan of Michael Badnarik's. We held a chat with him on Friday night and a transcript of the chat is still up. Please go to <a href="http://commongroundcommonsense.org/forums/" rel="nofollow">http://commongroundcommonsense.org/forums/</a> You'll see his topic. He started responding on the 3rd page and stayed for 3 hours. :) Hello, I was reading some older entries and noticed you were a fan of Michael Badnarik’s. We held a chat with him on Friday night and a transcript of the chat is still up.

Please go to http://commongroundcommonsense.org/forums/

You’ll see his topic. He started responding on the 3rd page and stayed for 3 hours. :)

]]> By: Winston Smith http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/03/17/blackburn-v-rationalists/#comment-4960 Winston Smith Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/?p=673#comment-4960 Well, Blackburn was a prof of mine, and I like him. And he's good at putting "rationalism" in the harshest possible light--which is a good thing for inquiry. But his own view...well... Humeans and their ilk ultimately have to admit that they just don't think there's any real sense in which their sentiments are good or right. They're only "good" and "right." Now, I think that moral nihilism/eliminativism might be a respectable position...but the Humeans seem unable to recognize that they're (basically) nihilists/eliminativists. But the strength of Hume and the humeans has always been in criticizing their opponents. When it comes to defense of their view...well, it's probably indefensible. Well, Blackburn was a prof of mine, and I like him. And he’s good at putting “rationalism” in the harshest possible light–which is a good thing for inquiry. But his own view…well… Humeans and their ilk ultimately have to admit that they just don’t think there’s any real sense in which their sentiments are good or right. They’re only “good” and “right.” Now, I think that moral nihilism/eliminativism might be a respectable position…but the Humeans seem unable to recognize that they’re (basically) nihilists/eliminativists. But the strength of Hume and the humeans has always been in criticizing their opponents. When it comes to defense of their view…well, it’s probably indefensible.

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