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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/01/12/delongs-new-song/#comment-3561</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Lungfish, do you mean &quot;grown up&quot; International realists who really do mean it that they like it that Iraqis voted last month, but really, really, really do wish we&#039;d also kept out of Iraq so Saddam could help Kofi&#039;s gang to more oil kickbacks? Hey, realism&#039;s great if that&#039;s your idea of reality -- eating your butcher and having him also.

On W&#039;s Social Security reform, I cannot help but agree with every single one of DeLong&#039;s substantive criticisms of it here, which is why I support it withut reservations.

As for Bob Jacobs&#039;s question, which is in fact substantive, the matter of where the money will come from for future retirees is a good one. But it seems to me it would be exactly the same matter whether the government is diverting some younger workers SS money into their own accounts or deceitfully spending a surpluse of it themselves, as they are now, while pretending to put it in some bogus trust fund. It&#039;s a difference without a distinction. Except I would rather see the young people get it directly -- and I am 62!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Lungfish, do you mean &#8220;grown up&#8221; International realists who really do mean it that they like it that Iraqis voted last month, but really, really, really do wish we&#8217;d also kept out of Iraq so Saddam could help Kofi&#8217;s gang to more oil kickbacks? Hey, realism&#8217;s great if that&#8217;s your idea of reality &#8212; eating your butcher and having him also.</p>
<p>On W&#8217;s Social Security reform, I cannot help but agree with every single one of DeLong&#8217;s substantive criticisms of it here, which is why I support it withut reservations.</p>
<p>As for Bob Jacobs&#8217;s question, which is in fact substantive, the matter of where the money will come from for future retirees is a good one. But it seems to me it would be exactly the same matter whether the government is diverting some younger workers SS money into their own accounts or deceitfully spending a surpluse of it themselves, as they are now, while pretending to put it in some bogus trust fund. It&#8217;s a difference without a distinction. Except I would rather see the young people get it directly &#8212; and I am 62!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Jacobs</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/01/12/delongs-new-song/#comment-3560</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush&#039;s  proposals need more than a little work.  If you look at the investment results from H.R.-10 and 401(k) plans, you will find something woefully less than what this Administration is forecasting.  More to the point, what are our current retirees going to look to to assure their monthly social security checks will keep coming.  Will Bush borrow the funds necessary to keep all those checks in the mail?

Social security was designed to assure our older members of society that they would have a base source of revenue for their retirement years.  Without funds coming from younger workers each month, where do we look for the money needed to fund the promised monthly income stream?

By eliminatinting the ceiling on the wages or other income subject to social security tax, we could probably increase the monthly receipts sufficiently to assure payments to all retirees for the foreseeable future and beyond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush&#8217;s  proposals need more than a little work.  If you look at the investment results from H.R.-10 and 401(k) plans, you will find something woefully less than what this Administration is forecasting.  More to the point, what are our current retirees going to look to to assure their monthly social security checks will keep coming.  Will Bush borrow the funds necessary to keep all those checks in the mail?</p>
<p>Social security was designed to assure our older members of society that they would have a base source of revenue for their retirement years.  Without funds coming from younger workers each month, where do we look for the money needed to fund the promised monthly income stream?</p>
<p>By eliminatinting the ceiling on the wages or other income subject to social security tax, we could probably increase the monthly receipts sufficiently to assure payments to all retirees for the foreseeable future and beyond.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnathan Pearce</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/01/12/delongs-new-song/#comment-3559</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnathan Pearce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quite like Brad deLong but he does allow partizan snarkiness to spoil his arguments. Still, he has a long way to descend before he ends up like a pathetically diminished Dem. hack like Paul Krugman. That man has zero credibility these days, IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quite like Brad deLong but he does allow partizan snarkiness to spoil his arguments. Still, he has a long way to descend before he ends up like a pathetically diminished Dem. hack like Paul Krugman. That man has zero credibility these days, IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: Iron Lungfish</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/01/12/delongs-new-song/#comment-3558</link>
		<dc:creator>Iron Lungfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JB, you obviously didn&#039;t read Delong during most of 2004, when he was constantly trotting out &quot;grown-up Republicans&quot; - i.e., fiscal conservatives and international realists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JB, you obviously didn&#8217;t read Delong during most of 2004, when he was constantly trotting out &#8220;grown-up Republicans&#8221; &#8211; i.e., fiscal conservatives and international realists.</p>
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		<title>By: jb</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/01/12/delongs-new-song/#comment-3557</link>
		<dc:creator>jb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seamus,

   Given Prof. DeLong&#039;s history of mocking and heated rhetoric against pretty much every person on the right, I&#039;d say that for DeLong, republican == incompetent.

   So you&#039;re both right!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seamus,</p>
<p>   Given Prof. DeLong&#8217;s history of mocking and heated rhetoric against pretty much every person on the right, I&#8217;d say that for DeLong, republican == incompetent.</p>
<p>   So you&#8217;re both right!</p>
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		<title>By: seamus</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/01/12/delongs-new-song/#comment-3556</link>
		<dc:creator>seamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read it again. He&#039;s not saying he opposes the president&#039;s SS plan because Bush is a Republican. He&#039;s saying he opposes it because the Bush administration has totally screwed up everything they&#039;ve touched. It&#039;s not because they&#039;re Republicans, its because they&#039;ve demonstrated something close to incompetence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read it again. He&#8217;s not saying he opposes the president&#8217;s SS plan because Bush is a Republican. He&#8217;s saying he opposes it because the Bush administration has totally screwed up everything they&#8217;ve touched. It&#8217;s not because they&#8217;re Republicans, its because they&#8217;ve demonstrated something close to incompetence.</p>
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		<title>By: seamus</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/01/12/delongs-new-song/#comment-3549</link>
		<dc:creator>seamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read it again. He&#039;s not saying he opposes the president&#039;s SS plan because Bush is a Republican. He&#039;s saying he opposes it because the Bush administration has totally screwed up everything they&#039;ve touched. It&#039;s not because they&#039;re Republicans, its because they&#039;ve demonstrated something close to incompetence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read it again. He&#8217;s not saying he opposes the president&#8217;s SS plan because Bush is a Republican. He&#8217;s saying he opposes it because the Bush administration has totally screwed up everything they&#8217;ve touched. It&#8217;s not because they&#8217;re Republicans, its because they&#8217;ve demonstrated something close to incompetence.</p>
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		<title>By: jb</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/01/12/delongs-new-song/#comment-3550</link>
		<dc:creator>jb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seamus,

   Given Prof. DeLong&#039;s history of mocking and heated rhetoric against pretty much every person on the right, I&#039;d say that for DeLong, republican == incompetent.

   So you&#039;re both right!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seamus,</p>
<p>   Given Prof. DeLong&#8217;s history of mocking and heated rhetoric against pretty much every person on the right, I&#8217;d say that for DeLong, republican == incompetent.</p>
<p>   So you&#8217;re both right!</p>
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		<title>By: Iron Lungfish</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/01/12/delongs-new-song/#comment-3551</link>
		<dc:creator>Iron Lungfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JB, you obviously didn&#039;t read Delong during most of 2004, when he was constantly trotting out &quot;grown-up Republicans&quot; - i.e., fiscal conservatives and international realists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JB, you obviously didn&#8217;t read Delong during most of 2004, when he was constantly trotting out &#8220;grown-up Republicans&#8221; &#8211; i.e., fiscal conservatives and international realists.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnathan Pearce</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/01/12/delongs-new-song/#comment-3552</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnathan Pearce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quite like Brad deLong but he does allow partizan snarkiness to spoil his arguments. Still, he has a long way to descend before he ends up like a pathetically diminished Dem. hack like Paul Krugman. That man has zero credibility these days, IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quite like Brad deLong but he does allow partizan snarkiness to spoil his arguments. Still, he has a long way to descend before he ends up like a pathetically diminished Dem. hack like Paul Krugman. That man has zero credibility these days, IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Jacobs</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/01/12/delongs-new-song/#comment-3553</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush&#039;s  proposals need more than a little work.  If you look at the investment results from H.R.-10 and 401(k) plans, you will find something woefully less than what this Administration is forecasting.  More to the point, what are our current retirees going to look to to assure their monthly social security checks will keep coming.  Will Bush borrow the funds necessary to keep all those checks in the mail?

Social security was designed to assure our older members of society that they would have a base source of revenue for their retirement years.  Without funds coming from younger workers each month, where do we look for the money needed to fund the promised monthly income stream?

By eliminatinting the ceiling on the wages or other income subject to social security tax, we could probably increase the monthly receipts sufficiently to assure payments to all retirees for the foreseeable future and beyond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush&#8217;s  proposals need more than a little work.  If you look at the investment results from H.R.-10 and 401(k) plans, you will find something woefully less than what this Administration is forecasting.  More to the point, what are our current retirees going to look to to assure their monthly social security checks will keep coming.  Will Bush borrow the funds necessary to keep all those checks in the mail?</p>
<p>Social security was designed to assure our older members of society that they would have a base source of revenue for their retirement years.  Without funds coming from younger workers each month, where do we look for the money needed to fund the promised monthly income stream?</p>
<p>By eliminatinting the ceiling on the wages or other income subject to social security tax, we could probably increase the monthly receipts sufficiently to assure payments to all retirees for the foreseeable future and beyond.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/01/12/delongs-new-song/#comment-3554</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Lungfish, do you mean &quot;grown up&quot; International realists who really do mean it that they like it that Iraqis voted last month, but really, really, really do wish we&#039;d also kept out of Iraq so Saddam could help Kofi&#039;s gang to more oil kickbacks? Hey, realism&#039;s great if that&#039;s your idea of reality -- eating your butcher and having him also.

On W&#039;s Social Security reform, I cannot help but agree with every single one of DeLong&#039;s substantive criticisms of it here, which is why I support it withut reservations.

As for Bob Jacobs&#039;s question, which is in fact substantive, the matter of where the money will come from for future retirees is a good one. But it seems to me it would be exactly the same matter whether the government is diverting some younger workers SS money into their own accounts or deceitfully spending a surpluse of it themselves, as they are now, while pretending to put it in some bogus trust fund. It&#039;s a difference without a distinction. Except I would rather see the young people get it directly -- and I am 62!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Lungfish, do you mean &#8220;grown up&#8221; International realists who really do mean it that they like it that Iraqis voted last month, but really, really, really do wish we&#8217;d also kept out of Iraq so Saddam could help Kofi&#8217;s gang to more oil kickbacks? Hey, realism&#8217;s great if that&#8217;s your idea of reality &#8212; eating your butcher and having him also.</p>
<p>On W&#8217;s Social Security reform, I cannot help but agree with every single one of DeLong&#8217;s substantive criticisms of it here, which is why I support it withut reservations.</p>
<p>As for Bob Jacobs&#8217;s question, which is in fact substantive, the matter of where the money will come from for future retirees is a good one. But it seems to me it would be exactly the same matter whether the government is diverting some younger workers SS money into their own accounts or deceitfully spending a surpluse of it themselves, as they are now, while pretending to put it in some bogus trust fund. It&#8217;s a difference without a distinction. Except I would rather see the young people get it directly &#8212; and I am 62!</p>
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		<title>By: upku</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/01/12/delongs-new-song/#comment-3555</link>
		<dc:creator>upku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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