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	<title>Comments on: Munger on Democracy</title>
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		<title>By: mungowitz</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/01/10/munger-on-democracy/#comment-3475</link>
		<dc:creator>mungowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t be serious about the Hitler thing.  The fact that he was a vegetarian has nothing to do with vegetarians being bloodthirsty dictators.

But the fact that dictator Hitler WAS selected democratically has LOTS to do with a proof, by example, that democracy cannot protect against dictatorship.

Suppose someone said, &quot;No dictators are vegetarians.  Being a vegetarian protects against liking dictatorship!&quot;  I could then plausibly say, &quot;Wait, Hitler was a dictator, and he was a vegetarian.  So, being a vegetarian has nothing to do with protection from dictatorship.&quot;

And, so, I *did* say, since Hitler was elected, but became a dictator, elections don&#039;t protect against dictatorship.

As for washerdreyer:  Plenty of people DO believe that &quot;love is all we need,&quot; and love=democracy.  If you don&#039;t believe that...go out and tell some people!  &#039;Cause you have already found the path of wisdom.

kgrease</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t be serious about the Hitler thing.  The fact that he was a vegetarian has nothing to do with vegetarians being bloodthirsty dictators.</p>
<p>But the fact that dictator Hitler WAS selected democratically has LOTS to do with a proof, by example, that democracy cannot protect against dictatorship.</p>
<p>Suppose someone said, &#8220;No dictators are vegetarians.  Being a vegetarian protects against liking dictatorship!&#8221;  I could then plausibly say, &#8220;Wait, Hitler was a dictator, and he was a vegetarian.  So, being a vegetarian has nothing to do with protection from dictatorship.&#8221;</p>
<p>And, so, I *did* say, since Hitler was elected, but became a dictator, elections don&#8217;t protect against dictatorship.</p>
<p>As for washerdreyer:  Plenty of people DO believe that &#8220;love is all we need,&#8221; and love=democracy.  If you don&#8217;t believe that&#8230;go out and tell some people!  &#8216;Cause you have already found the path of wisdom.</p>
<p>kgrease</p>
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		<title>By: washerdreyer</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/01/10/munger-on-democracy/#comment-3474</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The framers of the U.S. Constitution fully recognized that there is nothing, nothing at all, inherent in democracy that ensures the freedom of persons or property.
I think that might be arguing against a strawman.  The question isn&#039;t whether or not democracy ensures these things (who claims that it does?) but whether or not it makes them more likely.  I don&#039;t see anything in the article which addresses this issue, which is more of a serious claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The framers of the U.S. Constitution fully recognized that there is nothing, nothing at all, inherent in democracy that ensures the freedom of persons or property.<br />
I think that might be arguing against a strawman.  The question isn&#8217;t whether or not democracy ensures these things (who claims that it does?) but whether or not it makes them more likely.  I don&#8217;t see anything in the article which addresses this issue, which is more of a serious claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/01/10/munger-on-democracy/#comment-3473</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note the approving citation of Fareed Zakaria:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/archives/2004/12/hitler_was_a_ve.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;  After all, Adolf Hitler became chancellor of Germany via free elections.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note the approving citation of Fareed Zakaria:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/archives/2004/12/hitler_was_a_ve.html" rel="nofollow">  After all, Adolf Hitler became chancellor of Germany via free elections.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/01/10/munger-on-democracy/#comment-3469</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note the approving citation of Fareed Zakaria:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/archives/2004/12/hitler_was_a_ve.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;  After all, Adolf Hitler became chancellor of Germany via free elections.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note the approving citation of Fareed Zakaria:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/archives/2004/12/hitler_was_a_ve.html" rel="nofollow">  After all, Adolf Hitler became chancellor of Germany via free elections.</a></p>
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		<title>By: washerdreyer</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/01/10/munger-on-democracy/#comment-3470</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The framers of the U.S. Constitution fully recognized that there is nothing, nothing at all, inherent in democracy that ensures the freedom of persons or property.
I think that might be arguing against a strawman.  The question isn&#039;t whether or not democracy ensures these things (who claims that it does?) but whether or not it makes them more likely.  I don&#039;t see anything in the article which addresses this issue, which is more of a serious claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The framers of the U.S. Constitution fully recognized that there is nothing, nothing at all, inherent in democracy that ensures the freedom of persons or property.<br />
I think that might be arguing against a strawman.  The question isn&#8217;t whether or not democracy ensures these things (who claims that it does?) but whether or not it makes them more likely.  I don&#8217;t see anything in the article which addresses this issue, which is more of a serious claim.</p>
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		<title>By: mungowitz</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/01/10/munger-on-democracy/#comment-3471</link>
		<dc:creator>mungowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t be serious about the Hitler thing.  The fact that he was a vegetarian has nothing to do with vegetarians being bloodthirsty dictators.

But the fact that dictator Hitler WAS selected democratically has LOTS to do with a proof, by example, that democracy cannot protect against dictatorship.

Suppose someone said, &quot;No dictators are vegetarians.  Being a vegetarian protects against liking dictatorship!&quot;  I could then plausibly say, &quot;Wait, Hitler was a dictator, and he was a vegetarian.  So, being a vegetarian has nothing to do with protection from dictatorship.&quot;

And, so, I *did* say, since Hitler was elected, but became a dictator, elections don&#039;t protect against dictatorship.

As for washerdreyer:  Plenty of people DO believe that &quot;love is all we need,&quot; and love=democracy.  If you don&#039;t believe that...go out and tell some people!  &#039;Cause you have already found the path of wisdom.

kgrease</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t be serious about the Hitler thing.  The fact that he was a vegetarian has nothing to do with vegetarians being bloodthirsty dictators.</p>
<p>But the fact that dictator Hitler WAS selected democratically has LOTS to do with a proof, by example, that democracy cannot protect against dictatorship.</p>
<p>Suppose someone said, &#8220;No dictators are vegetarians.  Being a vegetarian protects against liking dictatorship!&#8221;  I could then plausibly say, &#8220;Wait, Hitler was a dictator, and he was a vegetarian.  So, being a vegetarian has nothing to do with protection from dictatorship.&#8221;</p>
<p>And, so, I *did* say, since Hitler was elected, but became a dictator, elections don&#8217;t protect against dictatorship.</p>
<p>As for washerdreyer:  Plenty of people DO believe that &#8220;love is all we need,&#8221; and love=democracy.  If you don&#8217;t believe that&#8230;go out and tell some people!  &#8216;Cause you have already found the path of wisdom.</p>
<p>kgrease</p>
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		<title>By: Exploit the Worker</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2005/01/10/munger-on-democracy/#comment-3472</link>
		<dc:creator>Exploit the Worker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Munger on Democracy&lt;/strong&gt;

Michael Munger: The reason democratic nations have personal liberties, property rights, and rule of law is not that they are democracies. Rather, nations that have those things embody the entire package of the Western tradition of good government. [Eco...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Munger on Democracy</strong></p>
<p>Michael Munger: The reason democratic nations have personal liberties, property rights, and rule of law is not that they are democracies. Rather, nations that have those things embody the entire package of the Western tradition of good government. [Eco&#8230;</p>
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