Hence the fixation on taking all rational calculation and cost-benefit analysis out of death. If people are permitted to consider death rationally, some will, and their values may not be yours. That, I think, is the central fear: Rational thinking at a point where society’s constraints and rewards cannot apply will lead to collapse and anarchy.
–G

The idea here is that we are not deciding for another person when death is appropriate. We would allow people to decide for themselves when death is appropriate, and allow them the option of asking for help with carrying out their wishes, without fear of prosecution for the other person, or the stigma that Will describes.

Watching someone close to me die of cancer made me very aware at a fairly early age that there are indeed far worse things than death. Making someone go through the torturous pain that accompanies many terminal conditions, or drugging them into semi-consciousness just to deal with it when they would rather be dead but are too sick to do it themselves is what is cruel, in my opinion. I believe that you can say both that life is intrinsically valuable and that each has the right to decide when and how their own life, no matter how valuable, should end.

So my fear is not that there are too many stigmas associated with death, but that there are not enough stigmas. We may decide that some death is morally acceptable, but let’s not advocate getting comfortable with it.

I see. Thanks for explaining your position. I guess I don’t have a big problem with erring on the side of letting people who are not terminal but are living in undending misery consent to be killed. That doesn’t sound like a bad thing to me. (I’m not even sure I’d call it ‘erring.’ Whatwould bother me are cases where people that are depressed but could get help are being killed (in accordance with their consent). (Or other cases relevantly similar to this kind.) But there are always going to be borderline cases with things like these.

And since I consider it to be worse for a terminally ill patient to be forced to live than I do for a severely depressed person to kill himself, I think that assisted suicide should be legal.

Oops – I don’t mean to open a can of worms with this assertion. Let’s narrow the scope of that statement to “there is no way to competently legislate when someone’s quality of life has reached a terminally miserable point.”

But isn’t that in itself an argument of compassion, i.e., a sentimental argument? Granted, there are gruesome and not-so-gruesome functional reasons in favor of mercy killing, but those aren’t what drive your assertion that it is ethically sound, even advisable. So Ms Warnock’s “send ‘em out to starve” arguments notwithstanding, most of its proponents view legalized mercy killing as a act of social and legal compassion.

But sometimes, the slope really is slippery. Compassion on an individual scale could (and I think would) become callous indifference on a social scale. I think that even if my personal convictions allow me to view certain mercy killings as ethically sound, society needs to view life as intrinsically valuable because there is no way to competently legislate when it is okay to kill someone. Sentimentality is the only friction on the slope, as I see it.

For instance, assuming that mercy killings ought to be permitted for the terminally ill, at what point should an Alzheimer’s victim be considered “terminally ill?” Do you trust your congressman to decide?

I know this rather sounds like your grade school principal’s argument of “sure, it’s okay if you do something, but what if everyone else did it?” I’m working on that…

Can you explain why you think it’s important to keep people alive when they are terminal, in great pain that can’t be dealt with without making them unable to think, and want to die?

What’s wrong will killing them that situation?

(It actually seems to me that it might be wrong not to kill them in that kind of situation.)

In your view, does palliative care presuppose that life has an unconditional value, and is therefore always an unacceptable alternative to euthanasia once a patient in pain has been declared terminal? And is that presupposition sentimental in nature?

I understand your objection to palliative care if it prolongs a miserable existence, but definitionally, such care would not be “palliative.” What I mean by the term is any care that’s intended to provide comfort once a patient has been declared terminal, and after all life-sustaining intervention has been withdrawn.

The important thing is to encourage greater awareness on the part of physicians, caregivers, and patients of when that point ought to be declared. There’s a lot of good to be done on this count that will vastly improve the lives of the dying and their families, even without broaching the subject of euthanasia.

Maybe I’ll print bumper stickers: “Die Sooner! Just not right away.”