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		<title>By: Bernard</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2004/11/12/what-are-philosophers-good-for/#comment-1958</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2004 18:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hits 60 is the most erudite commentator I&#039;ve seen in a while.</description>
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		<title>By: Bernard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernard</dc:creator>
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		<description>Hits 60 is the most erudite commentator I&#039;ve seen in a while.</description>
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		<title>By: Will Wilkinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2004 16:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skeptikos... Why does the universe exist? Ill-formed question. Grammatical, but nonsensical. Do other universes exist? No. The universe is the totality of everything that exists. Whether other spatio-temporal regions exist is a question for astronomy, not philosophy. So, there. Philosophy is dead?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skeptikos&#8230; Why does the universe exist? Ill-formed question. Grammatical, but nonsensical. Do other universes exist? No. The universe is the totality of everything that exists. Whether other spatio-temporal regions exist is a question for astronomy, not philosophy. So, there. Philosophy is dead?</p>
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		<title>By: Will Wilkinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2004 16:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skeptikos... Why does the universe exist? Ill-formed question. Grammatical, but nonsensical. Do other universes exist? No. The universe is the totality of everything that exists. Whether other spatio-temporal regions exist is a question for astronomy, not philosophy. So, there. Philosophy is dead?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skeptikos&#8230; Why does the universe exist? Ill-formed question. Grammatical, but nonsensical. Do other universes exist? No. The universe is the totality of everything that exists. Whether other spatio-temporal regions exist is a question for astronomy, not philosophy. So, there. Philosophy is dead?</p>
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		<title>By: Hits 60</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2004/11/12/what-are-philosophers-good-for/#comment-1954</link>
		<dc:creator>Hits 60</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2004 16:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting read! I&#039;ll consider what you said over my christmas holidays.  I want &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cheap-christmas-gifts.co.uk/product_56437382300000007/Grand_good_Theft_Auto%3A_San_Andreas.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grand good Theft Auto: San Andreas&lt;/a&gt; for Christmas!</description>
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		<title>By: Hits 60</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hits 60</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2004 16:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting read! I&#039;ll consider what you said over my christmas holidays.  I want &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cheap-christmas-gifts.co.uk/product_56437382300000007/Grand_good_Theft_Auto%3A_San_Andreas.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grand good Theft Auto: San Andreas&lt;/a&gt; for Christmas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting read! I&#8217;ll consider what you said over my christmas holidays.  I want <a href="http://www.cheap-christmas-gifts.co.uk/product_56437382300000007/Grand_good_Theft_Auto%3A_San_Andreas.php" rel="nofollow">Grand good Theft Auto: San Andreas</a> for Christmas!</p>
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		<title>By: Skeptikos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skeptikos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2004 20:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>n 1: a belief (or system of beliefs) accepted as authoritative by some group or school [syn: doctrine, philosophical system, school of thought, ism] 2: the rational investigation of questions about existence and knowledge and ethics 3: any personal belief about how to live or how to deal with a situation; &quot;self-indulgence was his only philosophy&quot;; &quot;my father&#039;s philosophy of child-rearing was to let mother do it&quot;

From WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University.

You guys are so cute. Get over yourselves, philosophy is up and running for the first time since Socrates. Almost everything in between was little more than sophism and semantics. (mind you I have deep respect for great sophists)

As we are finally able to ascertain that we finally &quot;know&quot; things (few as those things may be)  we can get to work. The question you ask is merely the symptom of a dying philosophy.

Thank goodness. Maybe now, Homo Intellego (or Homo Skeptikos) will finally begin to replace the hariless ape, Homo Assumptive (which refers to itself as Homo sapient, a clearly incorrect appelation).

When you can tell me why the universe exists, whether or not other universes exist, etc...than you can declare Philosophy dead, till then...look up me laddies, look up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>n 1: a belief (or system of beliefs) accepted as authoritative by some group or school [syn: doctrine, philosophical system, school of thought, ism] 2: the rational investigation of questions about existence and knowledge and ethics 3: any personal belief about how to live or how to deal with a situation; &#8220;self-indulgence was his only philosophy&#8221;; &#8220;my father&#8217;s philosophy of child-rearing was to let mother do it&#8221;</p>
<p>From WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University.</p>
<p>You guys are so cute. Get over yourselves, philosophy is up and running for the first time since Socrates. Almost everything in between was little more than sophism and semantics. (mind you I have deep respect for great sophists)</p>
<p>As we are finally able to ascertain that we finally &#8220;know&#8221; things (few as those things may be)  we can get to work. The question you ask is merely the symptom of a dying philosophy.</p>
<p>Thank goodness. Maybe now, Homo Intellego (or Homo Skeptikos) will finally begin to replace the hariless ape, Homo Assumptive (which refers to itself as Homo sapient, a clearly incorrect appelation).</p>
<p>When you can tell me why the universe exists, whether or not other universes exist, etc&#8230;than you can declare Philosophy dead, till then&#8230;look up me laddies, look up.</p>
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		<title>By: Skeptikos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skeptikos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2004 20:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>n 1: a belief (or system of beliefs) accepted as authoritative by some group or school [syn: doctrine, philosophical system, school of thought, ism] 2: the rational investigation of questions about existence and knowledge and ethics 3: any personal belief about how to live or how to deal with a situation; &quot;self-indulgence was his only philosophy&quot;; &quot;my father&#039;s philosophy of child-rearing was to let mother do it&quot;

From WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University.

You guys are so cute. Get over yourselves, philosophy is up and running for the first time since Socrates. Almost everything in between was little more than sophism and semantics. (mind you I have deep respect for great sophists)

As we are finally able to ascertain that we finally &quot;know&quot; things (few as those things may be)  we can get to work. The question you ask is merely the symptom of a dying philosophy.

Thank goodness. Maybe now, Homo Intellego (or Homo Skeptikos) will finally begin to replace the hariless ape, Homo Assumptive (which refers to itself as Homo sapient, a clearly incorrect appelation).

When you can tell me why the universe exists, whether or not other universes exist, etc...than you can declare Philosophy dead, till then...look up me laddies, look up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>n 1: a belief (or system of beliefs) accepted as authoritative by some group or school [syn: doctrine, philosophical system, school of thought, ism] 2: the rational investigation of questions about existence and knowledge and ethics 3: any personal belief about how to live or how to deal with a situation; &#8220;self-indulgence was his only philosophy&#8221;; &#8220;my father&#8217;s philosophy of child-rearing was to let mother do it&#8221;</p>
<p>From WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University.</p>
<p>You guys are so cute. Get over yourselves, philosophy is up and running for the first time since Socrates. Almost everything in between was little more than sophism and semantics. (mind you I have deep respect for great sophists)</p>
<p>As we are finally able to ascertain that we finally &#8220;know&#8221; things (few as those things may be)  we can get to work. The question you ask is merely the symptom of a dying philosophy.</p>
<p>Thank goodness. Maybe now, Homo Intellego (or Homo Skeptikos) will finally begin to replace the hariless ape, Homo Assumptive (which refers to itself as Homo sapient, a clearly incorrect appelation).</p>
<p>When you can tell me why the universe exists, whether or not other universes exist, etc&#8230;than you can declare Philosophy dead, till then&#8230;look up me laddies, look up.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Campbell</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2004/11/12/what-are-philosophers-good-for/#comment-1950</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2004 18:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will,

I tend to agree with you here. Neither analytic nor Continental philosophy have solved any big problems, and although the feedback loops are badly stretched, the poor track records have contributed over time to the acute shortage of jobs in academic philosophy.

But is it enough for academic philosophers to announce that solutions are going to come from physics and biology and psychology and economics--perhaps after those disciplines have come to be more appreciative of theretical arguments?  While the philosophers are still residing in philosophy departments, training students to operate in philosophy departments (if they can ever find jobs there)?

After all, those philosophers who claim to defer to psychology are usually far removed from actual research efforts in the field, and tend to have rather strong opinions about which empirical results in psychology are worth paying attention to at all.  I am not sure that they have fully overcome the bad example set by Quine, when on the one hand he said he was naturalizing epistemology, and on the other he insisted that the only psychology he had any plans to listen to was behaviorist.

Robert</description>
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<p>I tend to agree with you here. Neither analytic nor Continental philosophy have solved any big problems, and although the feedback loops are badly stretched, the poor track records have contributed over time to the acute shortage of jobs in academic philosophy.</p>
<p>But is it enough for academic philosophers to announce that solutions are going to come from physics and biology and psychology and economics&#8211;perhaps after those disciplines have come to be more appreciative of theretical arguments?  While the philosophers are still residing in philosophy departments, training students to operate in philosophy departments (if they can ever find jobs there)?</p>
<p>After all, those philosophers who claim to defer to psychology are usually far removed from actual research efforts in the field, and tend to have rather strong opinions about which empirical results in psychology are worth paying attention to at all.  I am not sure that they have fully overcome the bad example set by Quine, when on the one hand he said he was naturalizing epistemology, and on the other he insisted that the only psychology he had any plans to listen to was behaviorist.</p>
<p>Robert</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Campbell</dc:creator>
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		<description>Will,

I tend to agree with you here. Neither analytic nor Continental philosophy have solved any big problems, and although the feedback loops are badly stretched, the poor track records have contributed over time to the acute shortage of jobs in academic philosophy.

But is it enough for academic philosophers to announce that solutions are going to come from physics and biology and psychology and economics--perhaps after those disciplines have come to be more appreciative of theretical arguments?  While the philosophers are still residing in philosophy departments, training students to operate in philosophy departments (if they can ever find jobs there)?

After all, those philosophers who claim to defer to psychology are usually far removed from actual research efforts in the field, and tend to have rather strong opinions about which empirical results in psychology are worth paying attention to at all.  I am not sure that they have fully overcome the bad example set by Quine, when on the one hand he said he was naturalizing epistemology, and on the other he insisted that the only psychology he had any plans to listen to was behaviorist.

Robert</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will,</p>
<p>I tend to agree with you here. Neither analytic nor Continental philosophy have solved any big problems, and although the feedback loops are badly stretched, the poor track records have contributed over time to the acute shortage of jobs in academic philosophy.</p>
<p>But is it enough for academic philosophers to announce that solutions are going to come from physics and biology and psychology and economics&#8211;perhaps after those disciplines have come to be more appreciative of theretical arguments?  While the philosophers are still residing in philosophy departments, training students to operate in philosophy departments (if they can ever find jobs there)?</p>
<p>After all, those philosophers who claim to defer to psychology are usually far removed from actual research efforts in the field, and tend to have rather strong opinions about which empirical results in psychology are worth paying attention to at all.  I am not sure that they have fully overcome the bad example set by Quine, when on the one hand he said he was naturalizing epistemology, and on the other he insisted that the only psychology he had any plans to listen to was behaviorist.</p>
<p>Robert</p>
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		<title>By: billyjoerobidoux@yahoo.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2004 15:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem to assume that philosophy makes progress or can make progress, but maybe philosophy is just trying to figure out which questions we can&#039;t answer. Second, you seem to imagine philosophy is solving problems for the benefit of human welfare, such as creating societies more in line with human nature. (But maybe the society most in line with human nature isn&#039;t full of rational actors who ignore sunk costs but full of sports fans who revel in Iraqi deaths).  But turning philosophical questions into scientific problems is a short step from turning them into technological solutions. Philosophy is the will to power, which in my opinion is an impoverished vision of philosophy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to assume that philosophy makes progress or can make progress, but maybe philosophy is just trying to figure out which questions we can&#8217;t answer. Second, you seem to imagine philosophy is solving problems for the benefit of human welfare, such as creating societies more in line with human nature. (But maybe the society most in line with human nature isn&#8217;t full of rational actors who ignore sunk costs but full of sports fans who revel in Iraqi deaths).  But turning philosophical questions into scientific problems is a short step from turning them into technological solutions. Philosophy is the will to power, which in my opinion is an impoverished vision of philosophy.</p>
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		<title>By: billyjoerobidoux@yahoo.com</title>
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		<description>You seem to assume that philosophy makes progress or can make progress, but maybe philosophy is just trying to figure out which questions we can&#039;t answer. Second, you seem to imagine philosophy is solving problems for the benefit of human welfare, such as creating societies more in line with human nature. (But maybe the society most in line with human nature isn&#039;t full of rational actors who ignore sunk costs but full of sports fans who revel in Iraqi deaths).  But turning philosophical questions into scientific problems is a short step from turning them into technological solutions. Philosophy is the will to power, which in my opinion is an impoverished vision of philosophy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to assume that philosophy makes progress or can make progress, but maybe philosophy is just trying to figure out which questions we can&#8217;t answer. Second, you seem to imagine philosophy is solving problems for the benefit of human welfare, such as creating societies more in line with human nature. (But maybe the society most in line with human nature isn&#8217;t full of rational actors who ignore sunk costs but full of sports fans who revel in Iraqi deaths).  But turning philosophical questions into scientific problems is a short step from turning them into technological solutions. Philosophy is the will to power, which in my opinion is an impoverished vision of philosophy.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny Easwaran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenny Easwaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2004 16:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that philosophy of mathematics and philosophy of probability still have relevance to those fields and related fields, and have a chance to shed more light on theoretical (not just practical) capacities for knowledge.  Though perhaps that&#039;s just my bias from working in those areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that philosophy of mathematics and philosophy of probability still have relevance to those fields and related fields, and have a chance to shed more light on theoretical (not just practical) capacities for knowledge.  Though perhaps that&#8217;s just my bias from working in those areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny Easwaran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenny Easwaran</dc:creator>
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		<description>It seems to me that philosophy of mathematics and philosophy of probability still have relevance to those fields and related fields, and have a chance to shed more light on theoretical (not just practical) capacities for knowledge.  Though perhaps that&#039;s just my bias from working in those areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that philosophy of mathematics and philosophy of probability still have relevance to those fields and related fields, and have a chance to shed more light on theoretical (not just practical) capacities for knowledge.  Though perhaps that&#8217;s just my bias from working in those areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2004 16:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see philosophy as something both circumscribed by the extent of our empirical knowledge, which was expanding, last time I checked. In other words , the more we know, the more questions we have for our philosophical counsellors.

Perhaps the idea that philosophy has run its course is a form of nostalgia for a golden past -- one in which philosophers filled in the gaps in everyone&#039;s empirical awareness of the natural world, and the discipline&#039;s explanatory power seemed limitless. Now that the biochemists and physicists can explain in baffling detail the workings of the natural world, maybe some philosophers feel crowded out of the &quot;explain-the-universe&quot; business, and they&#039;re stuck instead in the &quot;explain-your-specialty&quot; ghetto of academia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see philosophy as something both circumscribed by the extent of our empirical knowledge, which was expanding, last time I checked. In other words , the more we know, the more questions we have for our philosophical counsellors.</p>
<p>Perhaps the idea that philosophy has run its course is a form of nostalgia for a golden past &#8212; one in which philosophers filled in the gaps in everyone&#8217;s empirical awareness of the natural world, and the discipline&#8217;s explanatory power seemed limitless. Now that the biochemists and physicists can explain in baffling detail the workings of the natural world, maybe some philosophers feel crowded out of the &#8220;explain-the-universe&#8221; business, and they&#8217;re stuck instead in the &#8220;explain-your-specialty&#8221; ghetto of academia.</p>
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