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		<title>By: Green</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2004/08/16/thirds-for-desert/#comment-984</link>
		<dc:creator>Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sam! Photos i send on e-mail.
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		<title>By: Green</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2004/08/16/thirds-for-desert/#comment-990</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sam! Photos i send on e-mail.
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		<title>By: Will Wilkinson / The Fly Bottle &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Deserving It</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2004/08/16/thirds-for-desert/#comment-983</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Wilkinson / The Fly Bottle &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Deserving It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Let it not be said again that I am not a defender of desert! Here is my TCS essay on luck egalitarianism, and follow-up blog posts. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Micha Ghertner</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2004/08/16/thirds-for-desert/#comment-989</link>
		<dc:creator>Micha Ghertner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2004 12:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what I don&#039;t get: How does it make sense to say that successful entrepreneurs deserve what they get because they were willing to bear the risk of their bet, but unsuccessful entrepreneurs don&#039;t deserve what they get because it wasn&#039;t really their fault that they failed? Why should one be rewarded for successfully taking risks if one is not &quot;punished&quot; for unsuccessfully taking risks? By not letting people fail on their own terms, you have removed any element of risk and reward from the equation.

Strangely, though, even as a radical libertarian, I&#039;m with DeLong on this one. But I think that a consequentialist structure of incentives exactly tracks a desert-based entitlement theory. In other words, I don&#039;t think you and DeLong are all that far apart; you are just speaking different moral languages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what I don&#8217;t get: How does it make sense to say that successful entrepreneurs deserve what they get because they were willing to bear the risk of their bet, but unsuccessful entrepreneurs don&#8217;t deserve what they get because it wasn&#8217;t really their fault that they failed? Why should one be rewarded for successfully taking risks if one is not &#8220;punished&#8221; for unsuccessfully taking risks? By not letting people fail on their own terms, you have removed any element of risk and reward from the equation.</p>
<p>Strangely, though, even as a radical libertarian, I&#8217;m with DeLong on this one. But I think that a consequentialist structure of incentives exactly tracks a desert-based entitlement theory. In other words, I don&#8217;t think you and DeLong are all that far apart; you are just speaking different moral languages.</p>
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		<title>By: Alec Rawls</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2004/08/16/thirds-for-desert/#comment-988</link>
		<dc:creator>Alec Rawls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2004 07:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting to see a blog discussion circling around John Rawls’s great mistake: his claim that nobody deserves anything. Understanding this mistake is the key to understanding what Rawls got right.

Since you all have hit on this important subject, I address it in a post of my own at errortheory.blogspot.com: &quot;Time to perform reflective equilibrium on Rawls’ Theory of Justice&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting to see a blog discussion circling around John Rawls’s great mistake: his claim that nobody deserves anything. Understanding this mistake is the key to understanding what Rawls got right.</p>
<p>Since you all have hit on this important subject, I address it in a post of my own at errortheory.blogspot.com: &#8220;Time to perform reflective equilibrium on Rawls’ Theory of Justice&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Zrimsek</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2004/08/16/thirds-for-desert/#comment-987</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Zrimsek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2004 22:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the heckler&#039;s veto which Bertram claims for academic enemies of desert also available to other people on other issues? If so, it sounds more like a recipe for paralysis than for PL.

The other thing I wonder is whether all you guys are really talking about the same sort of desert. I was struck by this sentence in the original Yglesias article:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Being born with the inclination and ability to become financially successful is no more morally praiseworthy than being born with the inclination and ability to inherit a large fortune.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Does anyone else see a problem here? Since money and moral praise are two different things, how exercised should we be to discover that the former is not distributed according to how much of the latter people deserve?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the heckler&#8217;s veto which Bertram claims for academic enemies of desert also available to other people on other issues? If so, it sounds more like a recipe for paralysis than for PL.</p>
<p>The other thing I wonder is whether all you guys are really talking about the same sort of desert. I was struck by this sentence in the original Yglesias article:</p>
<blockquote><p>Being born with the inclination and ability to become financially successful is no more morally praiseworthy than being born with the inclination and ability to inherit a large fortune.</p></blockquote>
<p>Does anyone else see a problem here? Since money and moral praise are two different things, how exercised should we be to discover that the former is not distributed according to how much of the latter people deserve?</p>
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		<title>By: bob mcmanus</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2004/08/16/thirds-for-desert/#comment-986</link>
		<dc:creator>bob mcmanus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2004 18:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad DeLong was unfair, and I tried within my limited ability to defend your position, or at least tried to show the implication&#039;s of MY&#039;s position that you were driving at that DeLong either didn&#039;t see or didn&#039;t care about.

Thanks for the anecdote about MY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad DeLong was unfair, and I tried within my limited ability to defend your position, or at least tried to show the implication&#8217;s of MY&#8217;s position that you were driving at that DeLong either didn&#8217;t see or didn&#8217;t care about.</p>
<p>Thanks for the anecdote about MY.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2004/08/16/thirds-for-desert/#comment-985</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2004 17:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a human being on the face of the planet who&#039;s as obnoxious as Brad DeLong?  A more mean-spirited, less charitable, more smug, less tolerant, more blinkered, prematurely dismissive interlocutor could scarcely be imagined.  And it&#039;s not as if this sort of behavior is rare on his part--a fit of pique or a lapse of judgment.  A bloviating blowhard with the same stratospheric self-regard as Rush Limbaugh (albeit much more talent), Delong consistently opines with equally despotic haughtiness in his areas of expertise and in subjects where he is almost completely ignorant.

I read a lot of arguments and, like every other person disagree with many of them.  And I often spend considerable effort trying to understand how people come to a given conclusion.  Delong seems preternaturally incapable of wondering whether he might--occasionally, once in a while-- be wrong.  Truly a world class asshole, Brad DeLong is one of the only people who regularly makes me want to punch my computer screen.

(Still, a very good economist.  He should stick with it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a human being on the face of the planet who&#8217;s as obnoxious as Brad DeLong?  A more mean-spirited, less charitable, more smug, less tolerant, more blinkered, prematurely dismissive interlocutor could scarcely be imagined.  And it&#8217;s not as if this sort of behavior is rare on his part&#8211;a fit of pique or a lapse of judgment.  A bloviating blowhard with the same stratospheric self-regard as Rush Limbaugh (albeit much more talent), Delong consistently opines with equally despotic haughtiness in his areas of expertise and in subjects where he is almost completely ignorant.</p>
<p>I read a lot of arguments and, like every other person disagree with many of them.  And I often spend considerable effort trying to understand how people come to a given conclusion.  Delong seems preternaturally incapable of wondering whether he might&#8211;occasionally, once in a while&#8211; be wrong.  Truly a world class asshole, Brad DeLong is one of the only people who regularly makes me want to punch my computer screen.</p>
<p>(Still, a very good economist.  He should stick with it.)</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2004/08/16/thirds-for-desert/#comment-976</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a human being on the face of the planet who&#039;s as obnoxious as Brad DeLong?  A more mean-spirited, less charitable, more smug, less tolerant, more blinkered, prematurely dismissive interlocutor could scarcely be imagined.  And it&#039;s not as if this sort of behavior is rare on his part--a fit of pique or a lapse of judgment.  A bloviating blowhard with the same stratospheric self-regard as Rush Limbaugh (albeit much more talent), Delong consistently opines with equally despotic haughtiness in his areas of expertise and in subjects where he is almost completely ignorant.

I read a lot of arguments and, like every other person disagree with many of them.  And I often spend considerable effort trying to understand how people come to a given conclusion.  Delong seems preternaturally incapable of wondering whether he might--occasionally, once in a while-- be wrong.  Truly a world class asshole, Brad DeLong is one of the only people who regularly makes me want to punch my computer screen.

(Still, a very good economist.  He should stick with it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a human being on the face of the planet who&#8217;s as obnoxious as Brad DeLong?  A more mean-spirited, less charitable, more smug, less tolerant, more blinkered, prematurely dismissive interlocutor could scarcely be imagined.  And it&#8217;s not as if this sort of behavior is rare on his part&#8211;a fit of pique or a lapse of judgment.  A bloviating blowhard with the same stratospheric self-regard as Rush Limbaugh (albeit much more talent), Delong consistently opines with equally despotic haughtiness in his areas of expertise and in subjects where he is almost completely ignorant.</p>
<p>I read a lot of arguments and, like every other person disagree with many of them.  And I often spend considerable effort trying to understand how people come to a given conclusion.  Delong seems preternaturally incapable of wondering whether he might&#8211;occasionally, once in a while&#8211; be wrong.  Truly a world class asshole, Brad DeLong is one of the only people who regularly makes me want to punch my computer screen.</p>
<p>(Still, a very good economist.  He should stick with it.)</p>
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		<title>By: bob mcmanus</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2004/08/16/thirds-for-desert/#comment-977</link>
		<dc:creator>bob mcmanus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad DeLong was unfair, and I tried within my limited ability to defend your position, or at least tried to show the implication&#039;s of MY&#039;s position that you were driving at that DeLong either didn&#039;t see or didn&#039;t care about.

Thanks for the anecdote about MY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad DeLong was unfair, and I tried within my limited ability to defend your position, or at least tried to show the implication&#8217;s of MY&#8217;s position that you were driving at that DeLong either didn&#8217;t see or didn&#8217;t care about.</p>
<p>Thanks for the anecdote about MY.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Zrimsek</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2004/08/16/thirds-for-desert/#comment-978</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Zrimsek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the heckler&#039;s veto which Bertram claims for academic enemies of desert also available to other people on other issues? If so, it sounds more like a recipe for paralysis than for PL.

The other thing I wonder is whether all you guys are really talking about the same sort of desert. I was struck by this sentence in the original Yglesias article:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Being born with the inclination and ability to become financially successful is no more morally praiseworthy than being born with the inclination and ability to inherit a large fortune.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Does anyone else see a problem here? Since money and moral praise are two different things, how exercised should we be to discover that the former is not distributed according to how much of the latter people deserve?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the heckler&#8217;s veto which Bertram claims for academic enemies of desert also available to other people on other issues? If so, it sounds more like a recipe for paralysis than for PL.</p>
<p>The other thing I wonder is whether all you guys are really talking about the same sort of desert. I was struck by this sentence in the original Yglesias article:</p>
<blockquote><p>Being born with the inclination and ability to become financially successful is no more morally praiseworthy than being born with the inclination and ability to inherit a large fortune.</p></blockquote>
<p>Does anyone else see a problem here? Since money and moral praise are two different things, how exercised should we be to discover that the former is not distributed according to how much of the latter people deserve?</p>
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		<title>By: Alec Rawls</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2004/08/16/thirds-for-desert/#comment-979</link>
		<dc:creator>Alec Rawls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting to see a blog discussion circling around John Rawls’s great mistake: his claim that nobody deserves anything. Understanding this mistake is the key to understanding what Rawls got right.

Since you all have hit on this important subject, I address it in a post of my own at errortheory.blogspot.com: &quot;Time to perform reflective equilibrium on Rawls’ Theory of Justice&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting to see a blog discussion circling around John Rawls’s great mistake: his claim that nobody deserves anything. Understanding this mistake is the key to understanding what Rawls got right.</p>
<p>Since you all have hit on this important subject, I address it in a post of my own at errortheory.blogspot.com: &#8220;Time to perform reflective equilibrium on Rawls’ Theory of Justice&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Micha Ghertner</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2004/08/16/thirds-for-desert/#comment-980</link>
		<dc:creator>Micha Ghertner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what I don&#039;t get: How does it make sense to say that successful entrepreneurs deserve what they get because they were willing to bear the risk of their bet, but unsuccessful entrepreneurs don&#039;t deserve what they get because it wasn&#039;t really their fault that they failed? Why should one be rewarded for successfully taking risks if one is not &quot;punished&quot; for unsuccessfully taking risks? By not letting people fail on their own terms, you have removed any element of risk and reward from the equation.

Strangely, though, even as a radical libertarian, I&#039;m with DeLong on this one. But I think that a consequentialist structure of incentives exactly tracks a desert-based entitlement theory. In other words, I don&#039;t think you and DeLong are all that far apart; you are just speaking different moral languages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what I don&#8217;t get: How does it make sense to say that successful entrepreneurs deserve what they get because they were willing to bear the risk of their bet, but unsuccessful entrepreneurs don&#8217;t deserve what they get because it wasn&#8217;t really their fault that they failed? Why should one be rewarded for successfully taking risks if one is not &#8220;punished&#8221; for unsuccessfully taking risks? By not letting people fail on their own terms, you have removed any element of risk and reward from the equation.</p>
<p>Strangely, though, even as a radical libertarian, I&#8217;m with DeLong on this one. But I think that a consequentialist structure of incentives exactly tracks a desert-based entitlement theory. In other words, I don&#8217;t think you and DeLong are all that far apart; you are just speaking different moral languages.</p>
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		<title>By: Crooked Timber</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2004/08/16/thirds-for-desert/#comment-981</link>
		<dc:creator>Crooked Timber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Political equality and material inequality&lt;/strong&gt;

In his reply to Chris B&#8217;s response to his article on desert Will Wilkinson expresses dismay that no-one has taken up a point he made in his original piece, viz, Material inequality is one kind of inequality among many. Political...</description>
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<p>In his reply to Chris B&#8217;s response to his article on desert Will Wilkinson expresses dismay that no-one has taken up a point he made in his original piece, viz, Material inequality is one kind of inequality among many. Political&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Varicose Veins</title>
		<link>http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2004/08/16/thirds-for-desert/#comment-982</link>
		<dc:creator>Varicose Veins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Varicose Veins&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
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